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Originally Posted by danielf
I'm not denying that illegal downloads play a big part in the bottom line, but it seems to me that you are desperately clinging on to a business model that is about 40 years out of date.
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Sorry danielf I'm not clinging on to a dead business model - I'm merely explaining that model.
As I said in my earlier post to Mick
"I highlighted the practice (business model) I don't believe that I've said anywhere that I supported it."
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Originally Posted by danielf
This business model you quote where every illegal download is a lost sale became obsolete when cassette tapes became popular.
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Not really, you'll recall - and I pointed this out earlier - the music businesses made and sold the blank cassette tapes and the mediums by which they were played back - both domestically and personally (Hi-Fi tape deck, portable tape deck and Walkman). Effectively they were making more money due to the required outlay on the part of the consumer to keep up with technology.
If anything the advent and subsequent popularity of the cassette further increased the profits of the music industry, "simple economics" as nffc would put it.
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Originally Posted by danielf
Before downloading became an option, people were always making tapes for their mates. Quoting your own source here, the heydays of the record shops were in the 80s. Pirating copyrighted materials was rife in the 80s, and it seems record shops did quite well back then.
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See above. Bear in mind also that the 80's saw the introduction of the CD as a medium. Subsequently, and in tandem with the introduction of CD Walkmen and Mini Disks, the demand for vinyl (as a non portable medium) fell.
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Originally Posted by danielf
The only thing that has changed is that it has become a lot easier to get hold of pirated material.
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See above. Once the transition to the binary (MP3) came about the music businesses were quick to corner the blank cd markets -0nce again they, for the greater part, are the manufacturers of playback and recording machines. It truly "got out of hand" when someone not connected with the music business (Apple) created a stand alone platform.
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Originally Posted by danielf
Oh, and for the 'record': no I do not condone the widespread pirating of copyrighted material. I reckon 98% of my music collection has been paid for. In fact, hardly anything of it is downloaded at all. It's all hardcopy CDs and LPs.
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Nice pun. Neither do I. I'm just pointing out that taking something for free just because you can does not make it right or OK. It comes at a cost and even if you buy the track / album later as many claim to do, it does not deflect from the fact that you acquired it without paying first.