[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Derek S

And maybe asking someone who has already shot 4 people down in cold blood isn't the best person to ask nicely to come along and when they don't sometimes, just sometimes force might have to be used.

And what happened to innocent until proven guilty. This man had not been through due process, so I don't think that police officers making the decisions for the courts is really the best way to proceed, or perhaps you think that summary justice is okay.

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Originally Posted by punky

I wasn't going to waste the time and effort but if you're going to cast aspersions my maturity I might as well.

1. He ambushed 4 police officers in cold blood. And you seriously think he would come quietly and explain his motives for it?

There was no trial. Henceforth there was no presentation of evidence, there was no defence and not jury. It is not up to the police to be executioners of people who not even been found guilty.

2. Police believe he was mortally wounded from the cafe. It still not clear whether he died as result of that wound or another shoot-out. Despite that, you with no experience, knowledge or vested interest in the matter decide that they were wrong to act in self-defense. Whilst sitting safely in a different country.

And you have no idea whether this man killed the people he was accused of. Seeing as there was no trial and the suspect is dead, it is impossible now to find out.

3. The police have arrested 3 people who have been accused of helping him - perhaps one of those will illuminate you with regards to Clemmons' motives you are so interested.

These people are not accused of the murders. They have been arrested on different offences.

4. Your comment that the police are gung-ho, persumably because they are Americans and you despise them, can easily be considered racist

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That is probably the most disgusting nonsense I have ever had the displeasure to read on these forums.

5. 4 entirely innocent people have lost their lives whilst trying to serve and protect the public and you're more interested in persuing some kind of vendetta against them.

There has been no evidence presented to a court of law to prove that this person committed these crimes. Or do you thin all suspects of murder should be shot on sight?

Realise why you are pathetic now? Or just going to ignore what I say and harp on with more of your rubbish?

Still with the peurile and ridiculous insults. Grow up!

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wasn't part of the Tony Martin case that he wasn't in danger as they were running away? Anyway I don't give a damn particularly as they got the right guy.

But they don't really know that, do they. As you said, he was only a suspect oat the ti,me. Since when has been down to the police to decide who lives or dies. The man was running away, he was shot in the back.