[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Flyboy, what price do you put on a child's education?
It may not cost the LEA, As you have stated, by the way, I do not know for certain if the parents can claim for educating their child at home, they may be able to.
For example, if one of the parents had to give up work so they are at home with the child, they could probably claim benefits of some type, so this whole thing may not be as " costless " as you think.
The tie should be an optional part of the uniform, and certainly not used as an excuse to deny a child an education.

But it is not the school who is denying the child an education, it is the parents. It is the parents who are refusing to send their darling little princess to school, because she doesn't want to wear a tie, just like all the other students do.

One cannot give up work and claim benefits in order to home educate a child. There are no funds, from government, national or local, that are available to access to provide for home education. If this had been the case, I would have taken this option a long time ago with Flyboy10 (a subject for another thread ).

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Saaf, whatever the rules the school have are, in my opinion, it is idiotic to not have the tie as an option.
You like others have a different take on the matter, that is fine.
The way our country is at the moment, around here at least, 200 people chasing one job, would the fact that a prospective employee wears a tie really sway an employer when they have no jobs?
The wearing of a tie should not be used to gauge a person.

Any employer who is expecting a certain amount of professional commitment and gravity to the position they are offering, would at least expect a candidate to do the same. Whenever I interview someone for a position, I will always take into account their professional ability, their competency and their commitment to their future and to the recruitment process. That includes turning up for an interview appropriately prepared; including being dressed accordingly. If I am interviewing someone for a position as a project manager, for example, I will expect them to turn up with a copy of their CV, any references and a breakdown of what they want to achieve in the position and how they will accomplish it; I will also expect them to show me the courtesy of wearing a suit, shirt, collar and tie. If they turned up in t-shirt, jeans and trainers, they wouldn't even get in the door, because if they can't be bothered to commit to this, what can I expect from them as an employee.

There are more things that are important in the upbringing of kids than throwing a tie around their neck.
Sadly now missing it seems, basic good manners like holding the door open for someone, helping the old lady from the bus with her shopping trolley, basic simple things that can make our kids better people, hopefully.

You have described the very reason why it is important to follow the rules that are set out. They are there to educate children that there are rules to be followed and standards to be met. Otherwise we will never see those days again.

So IMO the tie should be optional, that is my opinion, does not mean it has to be a shared one.

But the tie is not optional, in this case and that is the rule needs that to be followed.

But as I have said before, although it may not cost the LEA directly in terms of paying for books etc for the child to be educated at home, what is the true cost, in terms of a child who has not had the usual mainstream educating?
Probably someone unable to mix with people, because they have been taught in a confined area.

But it is the parents who have decided to not allow her to go to the school, not the school. It is they who will have to make sure they educate their little princess in an appropriate manner, or they will fall foul of the law.

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With all of this said, I have to admit that Flyboy10 starts year seven, next year and the secondary school he is going to have actually deleted ties entirely from the uniform (he is most disappointed, as he loves wearing a tie, go figure ). For the very reason that the school in this thread had changed the tie to a clip on. But that still doesn't change the fact that this school has a rule and it needs to be followed.