Problem is that changing provider would mean getting a BT line in and I can't stand that particular company - doesn't matter who your ADSL is off it's through a BT line

And when it isn't being oversubscribed cable is so far above ADSL it isn't funny - if Virgin had some real competition then we might see more action, till then i'll see what I can coax out of them .. squeaky wheel gets the oil and all that.