ohh and the average CF page for this very threads page 2 is
550,354 bytes
so you have already run up at least that 1.46p+ by reading upto here
just because "they do it" , "so we can too" doesnt hold much sway to your average users paying the real costs....month on month.... or the local magistrate come to that if theres existing case law, OR they beleave theres a case for in good thaith to be made in a cheap and cheerful 'small claim' court case etc.
you know me by now Ben, ill NEVER ignore the facts if they are known to me at the time... but it will not stop me from looking at something from a very different POV, actively putting yourself in others shoes and seeing things from other perspectives is a very good way to learn new things, and help people, but you know this already.