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Old 28-09-2009, 22:09   #296
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Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs

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Originally Posted by Flyboy View Post
The victim in this case was not the one who went to the papers. It was the accused, at the behest of the Christian Institute. Now I would have thought that even a hint of their involvement would start to ring alarm bells. A lot has been written about the woman, who was on the receiving end of this couple's wrath, but there is precious little about the couple themselves. I wonder why the likes of the Daily Heil, The Sexpress and the Torygraph haven't delved into their background and bothered finding out anything about them?




Which I would have thought, as experience service providers such as these, should have known better to have not even started a discussion on the subject.



How do you know this? She was recovering from an operation, I hardly think she was in much of a position to "give as good as she got." But, on the presumption that this is what happened, what would you have expected her to have done? Just sit there meekly and take the abuse that was allegedly thrown at her?



But it is more than what was said about Mohammed, she was insulted by their assertions that her religious dress was oppressive and some kind of bondage. I dare say the was a whole lot more said than that as well, but we only the Daily Heil's et al version of what they want us to know.



Yes, I am sure you have, but then I don't think Stormfront's collective opinion holds much of an independent perspective to be honest. But I am sure they are just a little more than confused, to hear the the accused is an immigrant and the victim is a British born white woman.



I am sure a lot of people do see it as you do, but then I am sure there a lot of people who would rather Muslims were not allowed to stay in guest houses where white Christians go, but there you go.

This has nothing to do with an imagine PC conspiracy, what it has to do with is an individual's right, to live their lives as they wish, unharassed and unhindered by someone's yobbish behaviour and bigoted opinions.

As far as her husband is concerned, reading the woman's words, she sounds as though she has a mind of her own in these matters and her husband has little influence over her decisions. Which kind of flies in the face of the accused assertion that she was under some kind of bondage.

You seem to write your post as if you were at the breakfast table.
So the " Bigotted " opinions were only one way were they?
People are entitled to stay where they want, but if i decided to convert to the muslim faith I would look into the history.
I dont recall it being a place only white christians go, maybe I read the wrong papers hey?
But again, freedom of speech is a two edged blade, do you agree on that?
Waiting....

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Originally Posted by Stuart C View Post
Is there any evidence that the muslim woman "slagged off" Christianity? Not as far as I know.. I have to admit, I think that the thread title is possibly a bit inaccurate..

As for the comments. Was Mohammed a warlord. Yes, I believe he was. Assuming I am correct, I don't think any Muslim would deny it.

Maybe the comment about Muslim women's clothing being a form of bondage was actually more offensive. I certainly would class it as being being as offensive as, say, a Muslim saying that because Christians wear crosses (a symbol of torture) that they idolise torture.


Note: I know that Christians do not idolise torture and that the cross actually symbolises the sacrifice Christ made.

Stuart, all we know about what happened is what we are being force fed by the press.
I read that the attack on the muslims faith came during a debate between the two parties.
Different papers will tell us different things.
All I do know is that if I enter into such a debate as religion things will get heated.
But why should it be ok for one religion to be slagged off without fear of retaliation?
What actually happened will only come out in Court, which to me is a sad indication of where we are in this country when you're not allowed to voice your opinion, no matter what has been said to provocate such a response.
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