[saabmania2]

The SA V+ box is fine there is nothing wrong with it, i had mine for 3 years before the hard drive went last week which can happen with any hard drive it's not a problem with the box, i do now have the samsung though and i'm very impressed it is much quicker channel changing and it's seems to do HD slightly better imo, also it is quieter than the SA.
but these things don't mean the SA is bad i was happy with mine.
But out of choice i would choose Virgin over Sky any day of the week, due to the fact i would barely get 5mb on there max BB that for me makes a huge differance