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Originally Posted by martyh
why would you take issue with the wheelchair remark roger ?
if she is that incapacitated to need a carer(her partner i understand) and cannot work because of her disability then remove the excuse of "i can't walk properly so i can't work" give her a wheelchair or walking sticks or whatever she needs, and get the sponger out to work
believe me roger she is not disabled in any way she is milking the system and taking money of genuinely deserving cases, so i say scare the living daylights out of the pair of them ,remove any excuses they have for not working (if that means giving them a wheelchair then so be it )and refuse to pay any more disability allowance until they find a job and if they refuse to find a job throw them in jail for benefit fraud
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giving some one a wheel chair doesn't make them capable of work
unless we have all the details there is no way of knowing exactly what she has wrong with her if anything is
diagnosing people from media reports seems daft and unproductive to say the least
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
No Roger you need a doctor to sign something to say you have a problem that is not the same as medically confirmed by a specialist with hard data to backup that you have a disability or specific limiting medical condition. Right now we have too many doctors signing people onto the sick for the daftest reasons and not having the time and the resources to actually make sure someone is always telling the truth or that the problem they have actually exists.
Take back pain most gp's will take the word of a patient that they have it and refer them to a specialist for it to be sorted out which can take a long long time and is the most common thing fraudulent claimants state as their medical problem. This is what i mean by restoring the confidence of people in the system.
Right now so many whether because of the media or by someone they have heard of think that most people on incapacity benefit are lead swinging spongers with no real problem and are happy to grab that generalisation brush and tar everyone with it.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a system where people were confident that those getting incap were limited and deserved it instead of what we have now.
I am not actually sure how good the so called investigating arm is because over the years i have called that hotline to report people blatently ripping off the system and not a thing has ever happened to anyone and most of the people i have reported i know many others have also called the hotline reporting them.
In cases like this one people are waiting to see a strong response from the system to see that actually benefit and the welfare state in general is not something that can be abused and when it doesn't happen all claimants and those in need suffer because of it.
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that's not how disability works your Dr has little or nothing to do with you getting benefits now
you can get sick-pay for a while on a Drs note but to progress to invalidity or other benefits will require you seeing several Drs and other people employed by the benefits agencies
see
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...ho_cannot_work