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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
How do we get them off the system well a couple of easy ways to me one for incapacity benefit have two initial rates medically confirmed and non confirmed. You would then have two other categorys of short term and long term that would make it easier for the powers that be to at least have an idea where to target any crackdown as long term medically confirmed would obviously be harder to get and a lot lot harder to fake.
On the unemployment side i do believe in some form of work for benefit in a vocational way not simply having them picking up rubbish off country roads and such but something that will genuinely help them get work. Not five days a week maybe three a week with the other two being used to help claimants with job applications, cv's and interview techniques to give them the best possible chance.
I know when i was once unemployed that would have made me very happy as it would have kept me in a routine and shown perspective employers i had done something with my time other then sit about getting my giro.
I have to agree on the wheelchair comment because if you saw me walk out of my house i might appear a little slow but would seem fine see me fifty metres down the road then you would see something was wrong. Like many i am stubborn and simply refuse to go to the chair even though being totally honest i probably should. This is where we have to be careful you cannot judge from quick impressions and also someone might be fine walking from their home to town or something but then spend two or three or more days paying for it.
As to the media right now i have complete contempt for them and the way they are manipulating many areas of public opinion usually in keeping with their foreign owner's views not those of the vast majority of the british public.
Who by and large are still fair are still generous and would never refuse help to those in genuine need. But we do need to make our system tight enough for the confidence to return that those getting benefit do indeed need it and deserve it.
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you dont seem to understand that to get invalidity you already need to get it medically confirmed
there are some conditions that though are always going to be not diagnosable other than by what the person reports the condition to be ( back pain for example )
if they do something they say they cant do and get caught then they loose their benefits this wont get any easier or harder to do with a confirmed and unconfirmed label
if you want to save money though ad that's your main aim i take it then getting rid of the investigating arm of the invalidity would be the way as they spend over £1 for every 62p they save ( and that's based on their idea of what would have been lost if they hadnt caught those they did lol )
see
http://www.nao.org.uk/news/0708/0708102.aspx
the biggest travesty of invalidity is not who it pays out to that it shouldnt but the amount it never pays to those it should
see
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/opinion/b1..._shocker.shtml
as to those on job seakers or even the disability working benefits i should imagine most would love to do some work especially if it helped them into work or to keep up their skills
but the best way to do that has been blocked by successive governments which is to allow them to claim while doing charity work