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Originally Posted by ntluser
You may not have noticed but Ireland are doing something that France & the Netherland did not do..they are planning a second vote. In other words, those at the top of the EU gravy train are going to do any deal or any trick to ensure that it is ratified. Gordon Brown's trick is not to give us a referendum because it's apparent that a lot of people here would vote "No".
There are lots of issues but the first one is to remove a PM and a party that is more focused on their own interests rather than the interests of the British people.
Maybe then we will get a government that puts our wishes & interests first.
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I've certainly noticed the pressure on Ireland to vote yes, including that placed on them by their own politicians and the politicians of other states, including Gordon Brown. It reminds me of the pressure placed on Denmark when it voted against a previous treaty, and amongst those applying the pressure
that time was our very own John Major. The contempt our political classes have for the will of the people beggars belief.
I'm all for removing
"a PM and a party that is more focused on their own interests rather than the interests of the British people" but replacing these with another government
"that is more focused on their own interests ...." is no solution at all. I can't see how one that is obliged to follow policies covering every aspect of our lives and decided by majority voting in EU institutions and by the European Commission, instead of by the electorate, can possibly be anything else.
Like I said, justice and home affairs policy will be of major interest in the EU.
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At the meeting of the European Council on 5 November 2004, a five-year action plan for cooperation on judicial matters and home affairs was adopted. The plan, known as the Hague Programme, includes police and customs cooperation, rescue services, criminal and civil law cooperation, asylum, migration, visas and checks at external borders, etc. The first strategic action plan in the area of justice and home affairs was adopted in Tampere in 1999. The current plan, the Hague Programme, which was adopted in November 2004, expires in December 2009. Producing guidelines for future work in the form of a new action plan, the Stockholm Programme, will be a major and important negotiating task for the Swedish Presidency.
http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11666/a/120682
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This has even roused other Europeans to protest. The European Civil Liberties network says the EU has take a
"dangerously authoritarian turn".
http://www.ecln.org/ECLN-statement-o...l-2009-eng.pdf
So get a government that follows our wishes?
We've made it clear that we don't all have the same wishes, but I can't see one even coming close, certainly not from the Tories. They hate even talking about 'Europe'. We are truly in a post-democratic age.
But each to his or her own.
