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Originally Posted by rogermevans
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Yes I believe I said that already
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as to the figures quoted for losses they are complete fiction they are based on every download being a lost sale which is daft and based on guessed figures of how many downloads there were
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Yup - but that isn't to say there shouldn't be some form of civil liability
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as to the why should it be different what difference are you talking about if we are talking about books i can read them for free with out ever paying an author a penny completely legally ( Library any one ? )
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Indeed - but that is still just one purchase. Not one purchase and then copied lots of times
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may be we should lvl the playing field and get the same laws for books applied to DVD's and CD's
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Er - they already are? If fact I would guess that is exactly the same law - it is just everyone decides to ignore it for music, TV and films.
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in fact books are a good way to show it works for despite there being a perfectly free way to access them people still buy books ( lol i should know there are about 2k of them in my house i love reading  ) and when i buy a book i can share it with anyone i want i read it my wife my friends my mum etc i can even sell it on and keep all the money i get for it
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The difference is with a book is it one edition that has been purchased. If you then pass it on, you not making a copy of it and keeping it yourself.
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and before you moan that thats not the same as i cant keep a copy as i can with an MP3 i can still get it again free from the library or often rebuy it from a second hand book stall extremely cheaply often just months after its been released ( and i still buy lots as they are released lol i must learn to wait and get them cheaper )
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It is different, because the book you lend out from the library has also been paid for at some stage - it isn't a photocopy, it is an original.
And in fact, you have a library of music. It is called Spotify and it works in roughly the same way.
You can browse the library, select something want to experience (read a book/listen to a track) and once you have finished with it you no longer have it. But you can always experience it again if you want to
The Virgin Media service will also allow this.
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if you make the music good people will buy it again personally i think a big reason for lack of sales is that most of it now is just repackaged and plastic bands made by advertising companies ( no its not me just thinking all new music is crap lol ) some is great and i have those CD's and so did a lot of others but there is tons released every week that no one buys and i would suggest they downloaded it and didn't like it and Not thought that their MP3 was such good quality they didn't need the CD
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You argument is 'because commercial music is rubbish it's ok to copy it without paying for it'?
Have you ever considered that because of the culture of 'free' music, that people won't buy music when it really matters - to support those artists that rely on that revenue. That may have paid for their CDs to be made to try and make some money? And that the lables won't take the risk on up and coming artists?
Look at what happened when Radiohead tried an 'honest' download for their music
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...d_in_rainbows/ No-one paid for it - and that was a direct link between the artist and the listener, no 'big bad label' involved.
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with the library for any of these services to work they must be like the library and cover all books i mean music tracks if i had to go to different libraries for each book publisher i don't think they would have survived same goes for this because even though we may only be talking about switching web addresses people just wont they want a one stop shop
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Indeed, and that is why - in the press release (Again) - that VM already stated that the are trying to get as many labels on board as is possible before the release date