[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Barton71

And that is what is going to make a mockery of the whole thing. I will be sitting at home, listening to a track, and i will think that one of my friends in the USA might like the song, so i send it him, and in doing so, i will be breaking the T&C of the agreement.

And in that case you would also be breaking the law - not just the T&Cs.

Or i could be making a home video of one of my nieces playing about, to upload to youtube, and have a track playing in the background, again technically, i will be breaking the T&C of the agreement.

Of course that was is a bit tricky. The T&Cs of the download may have been broken, but you would probably then be covered by the agreement Youtube has/had with the PRS. If not - you would probably find the audio deleted

We, the consumers need more rights to what we want with media which we legally purchase. The right to rip CD's to our ipods, the right to upload home videos to youtube, without the music industry threatening to sue us, the right to convert DVD's to which ever format we want, so that we can play them on a device of our choosing, the right to backup games we buy.

Not denying that but at the same time, why should people have the right to do what on earth like without any responsibilities on the consumer? I grew up knowing that we should know the consequences of our actions. Today the default view is 'It's not my fault I did X - its someone/something elses'

The entertainment industry won't like that, but hey, i don't like the idea of the music industry, which makes £100's of millions profit each year, suing the public.

Why shouldn't they? It is their revenue the public is stealing. If you don't like the profits they are making, don't buy their products. Just because they make lots of money is no excuse for stealing

I know that, that's not an excuse to download the show, but it is the reason i download it, and i am unapologetic for it.

And by doing so, you are probably guaranteeing that eventually the TV networks won't take the risk of commisioning the next 'Lost' or 'Fringe' because the more people download it rather than watch it on TV, the less profit those shows make. The less profit, the less risk the studio will take on new drama and instead default to the easy money shows instead - the X Factors, BGT, Big Brother types

Until the various sectors of the entertainment industry get their acts together and starts delivering content who the consumers want it, there will be occasions where i will download from illicit sites. Even with the super sleuthing powers of my ISP on my case.

At the end of the day we currrent defending something that is illegal - which I just do not get.

At what point does that become acceptable? If I stole 50p from everyone in a town and said 'well no-ones going to miss it, and they shouldn't have that much money anyway' would that be acceptable?