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Oxyg3n · 29-05-2009, 01:18

I DO NOT CONDONE WHAT I AM SAYING HERE, I HAVE TESTED FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES AND IT LASTED NO LONGER THEN 24 HOURS. I PAY £90/MONTH FOR THE SERVICES I RECEIVE AND EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEY RECEIVE ASWELL

The only way Virgin is going to know whats happening with STB's is by physically going to the house.

The way most boxes run (or atleast should be run) is having the talkback signal cut (either by using a noise reducer that runs at 50dB, or by physically shorting the talkback circuit inside the box)
That way, when Virgin queries the box, it wont get a responce, and thinks "well must be away on holiday or something then"

This also Cuts all VoD services.

As for sending someone round.. not going to work.

The only people that would go to the house is the engineer. When I upgraded to the VIP package, they sent an engineer round to install the V+ box, the engineer admitted to me, he used to do the STB's and sell them on (So thats more theft, since he had to get the STB's from somewhere, and usually from the back of his van, thats been nicely filed up by VM)

So, VM will end up having to employ people to do it, which they arnt going to do, since that means more money lost. Especially for someone at the end of the day who still could turn around n "take a bribe" and still say "nah, they aint got anything illegal in that house"

As for the modems, different ball game.
Virgin could of fixed the problem years ago, by having all there routers (UBR's) talk to eachother, telling eachother what MAC addresses are connected, etc etc.

You cant mac clone a mac thats in-use on your ubr, the router kicks you off. Import that into all routers, and interlink them, the problem goes away, permanantly. So Virgin could be doing more to stop it. BUT THEY ARNT. They do exactly what we do in regards to the HD channels (bitch and moan, but in the end still do nothing)

29-05-2009, 01:18	#275
Oxyg3n Inactive Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes? I DO NOT CONDONE WHAT I AM SAYING HERE, I HAVE TESTED FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES AND IT LASTED NO LONGER THEN 24 HOURS. I PAY £90/MONTH FOR THE SERVICES I RECEIVE AND EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEY RECEIVE ASWELL The only way Virgin is going to know whats happening with STB's is by physically going to the house. The way most boxes run (or atleast should be run) is having the talkback signal cut (either by using a noise reducer that runs at 50dB, or by physically shorting the talkback circuit inside the box) That way, when Virgin queries the box, it wont get a responce, and thinks "well must be away on holiday or something then" This also Cuts all VoD services. As for sending someone round.. not going to work. The only people that would go to the house is the engineer. When I upgraded to the VIP package, they sent an engineer round to install the V+ box, the engineer admitted to me, he used to do the STB's and sell them on (So thats more theft, since he had to get the STB's from somewhere, and usually from the back of his van, thats been nicely filed up by VM) So, VM will end up having to employ people to do it, which they arnt going to do, since that means more money lost. Especially for someone at the end of the day who still could turn around n "take a bribe" and still say "nah, they aint got anything illegal in that house" As for the modems, different ball game. Virgin could of fixed the problem years ago, by having all there routers (UBR's) talk to eachother, telling eachother what MAC addresses are connected, etc etc. You cant mac clone a mac thats in-use on your ubr, the router kicks you off. Import that into all routers, and interlink them, the problem goes away, permanantly. So Virgin could be doing more to stop it. BUT THEY ARNT. They do exactly what we do in regards to the HD channels (bitch and moan, but in the end still do nothing)