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Old 24-05-2009, 11:56   #57
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Re: Virgin to launch 2Mb Size S

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Originally Posted by BenMcr View Post
No - I was quoting for BB M customers which no longer appears on the sales website because the product was withdrawn from new sales in February
So the price of £12 is no longer available.

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In that case your original price should have worked out as follows:

BB M £18
Phone £11
Phone/BB Saving -£8
Additional Saving -£5.50
E-billing Discount -£1
=£14.50

The £5.50 discount would have ran out at 12 months and the BB M charge increase to £20 this month which makes BB M £12 (£20 - £8 discount) on top of phone line rental - £2 less than BB L is
Yes this was one of the things that bugged me when I first signed up. Splashed all over the blurb was "no need to pay BT for line rental". It's a shame virgin forget to mention that you are just paying them instead.

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What I meant is that BB S is £11 ON TOP of the Phone line so £22 a month in total - a whole £1 cheaper the BB M + Phone @ £23
And still £7.50 more than I was paying for broadband m + phone (£22 - £14.50). And £8 more than I'm paying for broadband s (which is the same speed as I was getting for £14.50 a month).

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50% of 2 is 1 (BB M 2Mbit)

75% of 2 is 0.5 (BB S)

So BB S on Subscriber Traffic Managment has less thant BB M 2Mbit
This is just statistics. And confuses me at best. What I want to know is if I have my connection going at full speed for 24 hours, what amount of data can I download. And I want the figure to include the data I can't download because my connection is being choked. Then I want that figure for all the speeds that virgin offer. Kind of like the banks do with AER. Otherwise it's impossible to compare like for like.

Because of this: I sign up for latest greatest speed X. But if I download more than Y in some period I get choked, meaning for the period I am choked I cannot download at the advertised speed X. If Y is low, and the period of choking is half the day, all I can actually manage to download is 0.75 X (ie. half the day at X + half the day at 0.5 X). All the figures are meaningless when quoted at full tilt. It's just another multinational company using bait and switch to fool the unwary (who are the vast majority). If anyone thinks I'm wrong I'll sell you my farrari that goes 250 mph for ten times the price of my 'worse' car that goes 70mph. Shame you can't go faster than 70 mph on any road (legally anyway), and most of the time you will be going 30 mph in traffic.

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Personally I don't know why. Some people just don't want a Virgin phone and prefer to pay more
Yes but why is it £50 without the phone and £35 with the phone? My guess (and it is only a guess) is that virgin call charges are high, meaning that what they don't charge in the monthly fee they more than claw back in monthly call charges. Bait and switch is bait and switch no matter how you spin it.
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