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Originally Posted by xpod
Assuming that was directed at me i`ll try my best to make it clear to you,even though i`m far from being a member of any brigades that may indeed habit CF.
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Actually my comments were directed at a mindset, rather than any particular individual. I hadn't even read any of your recent posts in this thread. However, seeing as you identified yourself with what I posted, let's talk about it.
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Your quite right.......what he did was way out of proportion.
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We're off to a poor start here. As you are well aware, my comments about proportionality were aimed at those who want to take the copper's pension
away, they were not a comment on the actions of the copper in question. I truly believe it's possible for two people with opposing views to have a sensible, meaningful discussion about this subject, but indulging in word games isn't the way to go about it.
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It`s even easier when you`ve experienced & witnessed the disproportionate actions of your local plods,bent or otherwise.
Their(ok some are) a bigger gang of hoodlums than the so-called criminals themselves at times.
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I'm glad you thought to accept that there are
some coppers who aren't disproportionate hoodlums. Regardless, the actions of other police officers are entirely irrelevant in this case. I'm sure, if you consider it rationally, you will agree that the copper who is the subject of this thread is guilty only of his own crimes and not those of (some of) his fellow officers.
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It`s none of my own inadequacies that made me shout so loudly but the thought of it being one of my own 4 girls and the fact that some think it can be brushed off as an accident.
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Some may think that, but I don't, and seeing as you said you were replying to me, I'm tempted to suggest you're deviating into irrelevant comment again.
Also there's not much point in telling me how many kids you have - it doesn't make you any more qualified to judge the copper who killed the girl. As it happens I have three kids, and I can't imagine how I'd react if he had harmed one of them. But the fact is, he didn't kill one of mine, or one of yours. The judge who sentenced him will have considered the impact on the girl's family as *part* of the overall picture before sentencing.
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An "error of judgement" ??An error of judgement my backside.It was most probably quite a common thing he did ...until he killed the young lass.
I wonder what other "errors" he was happy to make along the way.
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'Most probably', based on what evidence? Something from the trial we've missed? This is insinuation and speculation.
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Just "Possibly" arrogant as hell.....well,not tonight he`s not eh.
Walked in their like John Wayne but i`ll bet he`s whimpering like a big wean tonight?Shame on him and shame on anyone else questioning the "justice" of it because of his poor career & his relative poverty?
Wheres the justice for the dead person?
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Now you're just ranting. I hope it gives you whatever it is you feel you need. I'm also very thankful you're not a Crown Court Judge.
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Originally Posted by Gary L
Have to agree with this. whether he was a copper/colleague or not. where is the justice for Hayley. some people are too bothered about how John will suffer from her dying.
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The man whose gross stupidity caused her death is, tonight, serving a jail term for it. There is the justice. If you're trying to make a comment about the length of that sentence, then I politely refer you to the comments I made earlier about proportionality.