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Your a non believer right?
Ok I'll take the stance of an agnostic, I can do this as an atheist because I done my homework, I've looked at it from many angles and I've spoken with men of faith and doubted my own thoughts for many years.


Science is remarkably limited. There is no arguing that it does very well in explaining some of the more macro-reality issues of our universe. But when you get down to the fine details, science becomes increasingly inadequate to answering fundamental questions about the universe. Quantum theory is the best tool set that allows physicists to examine the minute details of matter matter interaction, the basis of materialism. However, it is unable to resolve core concepts, such as integrating properly into relativity theory. Other limits are our biological limits to math. Maths development, imo, is currently lagging in development, as at the fringe it is increasingly hard to use math to prove quantum theory. We just cant wrap our minds around some of the outlier mathematical concepts. What about observer effect in physics, conflated to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle? Because the very act of observation changes the nature of the observed, we cant really know the fundamental nature of anything.
To wrap up, what science has provided to elucidate fundamental questions is inadequate. This is a disappointment because it really is all we have apart from religion. Furthermore, quantum theory, where i think it all boils down to, is our best guess. There is no second answer, its all but impossible to come up with another theory apart from it, and it doesn't even work very well.

That really leaves only one line of thought. We, as humans are biologically limited in intelligence. I really think that we wont be able to come up with a clear answers to deep questions such as is there a god etc, because we don't have the necessary cognitive power, or strategy to do so. At best we will have foggy answers. Science is like a dim light in a large dark room. The closer to the light source the brighter it is. This reflects our understand of things most evident to us; macro-physics, biology, the visible world. The further away from the light, the less clear things become; economics, quantum physics, etc. Then you hit the dark, where the light doesn't reach, or is too scattered. That dark might contain further answers, but we just cant see them. One of these answers is to the question is there really a god/ gods?

This line of reasoning would put me me firmly as an agnostic, where I can just nicely say we can't prove/disprove the existence of God, because we just cant; no one can.

Best way forward is to upgrade our intelligence, either through natural or artificial evolution. Problem with this is; we are of limited intelligence so anything we design will also be limited. Don't know if that will be a show stopper, as we can probably raise that limit every time we evolve. But for now, we cant or haven't evolved to a higher intelligence yet, so we are stuck with the same circular arguments of science vs religion, God vs no God, etc, which has occurred within this very post. Given enough time, and the survival of the homo evolutionary lineage I'm confident we will be able to solve these important questions. But for now, kick back, and enjoy life, and put these questions behind you, because there are no answers.

What say you sir?