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Originally Posted by Gary L
But other than we have to believe because it has to be true?
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But others who are not an atheist might have not. I think a lot of people who believe are only believers because they were taught to from an impressionable age.
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
No one has said that - once again you seem to be twisting what posters state to back up your proposition.
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Originally Posted by Gary L
No one has said what? what has no one said that I am twisting in order to make people back up my proposition?
and why do you keep shouting it has to be about sides, when I speak for myself?
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Maggy pointed out there were lots of historical documentation proving that the person Jesus actually existed - you responded by saying "
But other than we have to believe because it has to be true?" No one said that we had to believe because it has to be true, people were saying (imho) we should believe Jesus existed because of historical documentation; which I why pointed out to you that you were (imho) twisting what posters had said by raising a "straw man" as if they had.
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Originally Posted by Bender
black or white, with or against.... no grey areas, no sitting on the fence please... 
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- Get over it..........
There is a major difference, imho, between "sitting on the fence" and being deliberately provocative, obtuse, and twisting peoples statements to try and back up the poster's shifting positions.
Some posters seem to use "sitting on the fence" to post outlandish or ill-informed viewpoints, and then use the "sitting on the fence" defence to mitigate any negative response by stating "but I don't really believe one way or the other, I am just being even-handed and open-minded".
Helluva get-out clause, again imho.