[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I don't like the BNP one little bit. However i hope that copper sues the police for as much as he can get.

On what grounds? It was a legal and fair dismissal. He broke his terms and conditions of employment.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

So if someone is a Man Utd supporter they should be banned for believing that Man Utd is better than other teams? Should Northerners(just a theoretical example nothing more) be banned because they believe that are better than Southerners?

Then if someone believes that they are there to represent their community as opposed to the community, they should be banned and that applies to a lot(if not the majority) of racial groups.

Sorry, I must have been asleep. When did Manchester United become a racist political party (or any other type of political party for that matter)?

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Originally Posted by Russ B

I couldn't resist it. The BNP were in my town recently and they made a short clip of how successful the day was, also how many people took their literature etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0XwizKRdg

Keep your eye on the girl who takes a leaflet at 1:25, she appears to find it fascinating....

I could hardly stop myself from ROTFPMSL. The caption about the "British Asian" agreeing with them, after a five minute chat, was the best one. If that really happened, why didn't they show it? I would have thought that would have been the scoop of the century.

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Originally Posted by punky

I think its wrong that the police service target people's beliefs and not their actions. Its actions that ultimately count. For example, i'd rather have a copper who actively supports a political party, but discharges his duty faithfully and exemplary, rather than the SO19 copper who wasn't part of any political party but refused to guard the Israeli embassy.

But his actions have spoken for themselves, by him joining a racist organisation.

I can't find any mention of Bettley's disciplinary record which presumably means its excellent as if there were any dirt on it, someone would have pointed it out.

His disciplinary record is private and confidential, this is why you can't find anything.

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Whilst his sacking was expected I am a little unsure of the legalities of the Police using information obtained illegally against someone.

It does seem that it'll end up in the courts one way or another.

It was information that was in the public domain, it does not mater how it got there.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

From everything that we know this was a professional police officer that if a member of the bnp never allowed that to interfere with his duties so for that reason this was unfair. Not being a fan of the bnp i am not sure but didn't they do a family ticket sort of membership thing that may have got this guy on the list without him actually knowing and if that is the case it also makes this more stupid then it already is.

What we can wonder is, if he had to investigate a racialy motuivated attack perpertrated by a BNP memebr. Where would loyalties lay?

For those saying that belonging to the bnp is more then enough to get a police officer fired would they also support any police officer that is a member of any other political party getting fired because right now much as some of us despise it the bnp are a legal political party. Remember that while the core belief of the bnp is unpalatable in the most polite terms they also have made great efforts to sound and present themself more moderately in recent times tagging onto fears many have and putting themself forward as the solution same as all the other partys.

The point is that the other parties do have racist core values. They do not have racist consttutions or manifestos.

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

...on the BOA i agree that i cant understand how that was allowed i expect the london police have as many welsh officers down there as black policeman but bet that WOA wouldnt be allowed

but i still would say any member of the BNP shouldnt be a police oficer

But when the police service is still inherently institutionally racist, there is still a need for this association. It promotes good race relations and equality of opportunity, within the police services of the United Kingdom and the wider community.