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Originally Posted by Chris
Nor am I, on that basis. What you're describing there isn't really faith, it's fire insurance.
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Ha! I like that idea, and it appears very true. never thought of it like that!
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But medical science even today would have a hard time explaining any of the healings or raisings-from-the-dead that are attributed to Jesus.
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hmmm, possibly. but if we look into things such as 'wakes' when people die... this ritual came about from times a-past, when plates and tankards were forged from pewter. the crudely made mead and and acidic foods (such as tomatoes, etc) would react to the alloy casuing poison to the consumer. this sometimes left them so unconscious with such low metabolic functions that it was very hard to tell they were alive. it became apparent to the people that sometimesthey were burying alive persons, known only by exhuming coffins with scratch marks on the inside. when it was realised what was going on, people would hold a wake (quite literally waiting for them to wake up) whereby family / friends would gather around the layed out body with food and drink and sit with the body to see if they woke up. this also lead to 'saved by the bell' and it became common practice to feed a pull into coffins tied around a dead persons wrist with a bell up top so that if they woke up, the bell would chime. this also required someone to stay in the graveyard at night incase a bell went off and thus we have 'the graveyard shift' in reference to working nights.
who is to say something similar did not happen to Jesus?
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No - faith is very much a part of life in the USA, for example, despite the material wealth and the lead that country has in many advanced areas of research and manufacture. On a world scale, faith is very much a current issue.
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as a religious person, do you think that global faith in God would be shattered if science revealed we were not alone in the universe?
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Atheism, or various kinds of agnostcism, are very prevalent in 21st century UK, but we are more of an exception than the rule in this. It's easy for people engaging in this sort of debate to lose sight of that.
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why do you think this is? what is different about us to, say, the USA? why is religion so institutionalised over there?
Thank you for your time, Chris. I apologise if you are tired of answering questions like these, but then I suppose if it's something close to your heart, you'll never tire of talking about it. I'm in no way trying to poo-poo God, religion or faith, nor am I trying to make believers question their own views. Religion is just one of those things I find difficult to grasp because I tend to be a very logical thinker, whereby a+b=c - religion falls outside of that and is souly based on a faith, which totally ignores logic and comes only from within.
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God no aliens yes
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care to expand on that?
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Originally Posted by lucy7
Very very well!!
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agreed
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
That's a bit harsh on the OP...... 
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hey... I saw that!