Thread: The existence of God
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Old 18-03-2009, 21:32   #35
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Re: The existance of God
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Originally Posted by Bender View Post
ha! I see... I take it this one is a bone of contention here? I am aware there are some very religious people who post here, and not being religious myself (though I believe there is something greater than ourselves out there somewhere), I just wanted to see how faith defends such predicaments. in a way, there is logic on both sides of the fence here.
hmm well it depends on whether you have a bit of time on your hands ow i answer

but short version

some one challenged god right to rule and another couldnt keep to a simple rule

that started the problems we have

then some one challenged no one would follow god if they had free will

now this could be answered in two ways

1 being all powerful he could get rid of all those questioning his will

or

2 he could see if those given free will would follow him

the later from what my religion teaches was the choice

later

some person said the only reason some follow you is because you look after them

this led to another of those choices leave things as they were or see if those with free will would follow no mater what

so the challenge was accepted man was left to follow god if he wished with no help

while mankind was allowed to try and govern themselves until the end of this test and make thier own choices over who to follow

those who don't believe in a god will say if there was a god there would be no suffering but then there would be no free will

who would choose to suffer while everything was provided by god ?

nothing is foreordained the choices are ours god doesnt call people life just happens based on our choices good or bad for the time being

just to point out before the committed scientist go for me ( got my tin hat already )

my religion accepts the age of the earth is about 4.5 billion years old that dinosaurs existed that it took more than 6 literal days to make the earth and what is now in it

and i am all for natural selection !

i am just running by the main points that my religion believes in as a answer to why pain and suffering still exist
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