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Originally Posted by Mike_A

You misunderstand what I am doing.

What your doing (in my opinion) is opening up a whole can of worms for the customers out there who never have any problems at all as most never have any issues with regards to the STM policy - This is in my opinion, from what other posters have said on this board and others

It is unlimited broadband as there is no hard cap on how much you can download per month. Your clutching at straws my friend. I don't mean this in any offence but I hope that you lose this case and VM come out top trumps.

Originally Posted by Mike_A

I agree that greedy users should face penalties but regular users should not suffer as a result - which is precisely what is happening.

This would also be unfair to the heavy users though, surely?

Originally Posted by Mike_A

I do not mind STM so long as it is reasonable and aimed at those continuously overloading the system to excess.

Oh, and why should normal users pay for the excesses of others?

Agreed on this point. But also again, unfair to heavy users. You state you want the system to be fair. So that should mean fair to all users. Making it fair to the average user is singling out the heavy user, thus unfair still. So please, how can Virgin Media make a fair system without making any of the users being given the shoddy end of the stick?? I'd love to know

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

You really do believe VM's guff on STM I see

Not so much a case of guff, more like I believe it to be the best way to keep the network in a stable state for most users.

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Nothing to do with heavy users at all, you don't like heavy users you boot them

Problem, the heavy users are those who are on 20/50 tiers. Who are of course paying a premium price. You lose those you lose revenue, which in turn means you don't have as much cash to upgrade the network. Outcome? Poor network for all no matter what tier you're on

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Who knows it may encourage VM to continue their upgrade programs in order to offer their full range of services with no STM, or to look into alternate management systems.

No STM would be the way forward without doubt. But what other management system would there be? Limit certain programs, p2p for example. To the OP's logic that would be unfair I think, and he wants it to be fair for all

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Unlimited is just a PR title, VM have been unable to sustain an unlimited service since the 20Mbit deployment and are fully aware of this, hence STM and why it was deployed alongside 20Mbit.

Agreed on the PR title. However I can personally say my 20Mbit has never went lower than 16Mbit even at peak times. Infact most people I know have never had an issue(there are those that have and still do of course)