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Old 20-02-2009, 00:55   #403
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Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons?

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Originally Posted by cook1984 View Post
Been busy but I have two very encouraging things to report!

First, I took Davenport Lyons to Small Claims Court and WON! They didn't send anyone, only some letters to the court. I won £250 from them for wasted time leading to lost earnings (charged at my hourly rate of £45+VAT), letters, stamps, envelopes, phone calls and interest. It even includes the hour I spent in court and petrol costs to drive there and back, plus parking. Oh, and £30 court costs as well.

My argument was simple: they had no intention of ever taking me to court, as evidenced by the fact that they backed down very quickly once I started asking for more details. As such they caused me financial loss (having to waste time checking computers and networks used for business, writing letters etc), which I have now recovered.

They have not paid up yet, but if I don't get a cheque come January I will be contacting a debt recovery agency. Part of me hopes they don't pay, just so the bailiffs get sent in

The other positive development is that it looks like there is a good case to be made with the Information Commissioner, as pointed out in this article:

http://torrentfreak.com/accused-of-i...rnment-081205/

Basically, the European Directive on personal data is to be interpreted as not requiring it's disclosure for purely civil matters, such as copyright infringement. As such, VM should not disclose the information, and the court was wrong to order it to be disclosed. Furthermore, it seems that Davenport Lyons must also not retain that data. I have already written to all involved parties to ask for clarification, and in DL's case to delete all data regarding myself which is stored electronically.
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Originally Posted by cook1984 View Post
Thing is you have to keep in mind that in this case there was no response from the woman at all. DL know that they would loose, without a shadow of a doubt, if the accused turned up. Even worse (for them), it would prove the had no case against anyone and set a president for the use of IP addresses and their claim that the person paying for the service is responsible for everything that happens on it.



No, what is shows is that they have discovered an excellent scam. A letter costs, what, £1 to print and send to someone. It could potentially generate £600+ in return. No real evidence or court hearing required.

I have had three letters now, from three different companies. Refuted them all. Not heard anything more from any of them, except DL who currently owe me over £300 in costs.
What?

They haven't paid up for the small claims you claimed you WON from them?

Shocking.
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