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Old 02-02-2009, 18:58   #71
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Re: Nurse suspended for offering to pray for patient's recovery

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Originally Posted by Rob M View Post
Would these be the slippers that she was wearing at the precise point that she wasn't offended by being asked if she wanted the nurse to pray for her, or the loafers that she slipped on shortly before the Trust decided to be offended on her behalf?
If you were reading my posts, you'll have noticed I said "patients'" as in belonging to many.
The trust recieved the report from a patient because they were worried enough that any of the other patients could take offence at her pushing her beliefs on them.

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Originally Posted by Rob M
I didn't see the report where anybody suggested she was providing lower standards of care to those that she wasn't allowed to pray for.

Any chance of a link?
Here

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Originally Posted by Russ B View Post
(sigh)

No, she was not pushing her faith on anyone.
Sorry Russ, perhaps you can show me where the patient who reported her to the trust actually invited her to pray for them?

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What offence? The lady in question never said she was offended.....
You weren't talking about her when you said:
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Originally Posted by Rob M
Having read, re-read, and then read again, Russ' post, at no time does he say that. What he appears to me to be saying is that there are certain people who seem to find offence at everything, and who seem to want to over analyse things (possibly even seeing things that aren't there). These people are (obviously) more easily offended, and offended by many (many) things that wouldn't offend more sensible (less reactionary, critical, seemingly hard done by) individuals.
were you? Which is what I responded to.
Really, can you try and pay a little more attention please?

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Originally Posted by Rob M
No, but sometimes it's necessary to look beyond the intial hue and cry and decide whether these are the actions of someone who has been offended, or the actions of someone that has chosen to be offended.
I'll ask again, if someone is offended, but you believe they've "chosen" to be offended, are they faking their feeling of offence or do they actually feel offended? Should you ignore their feelings simply because you believe they've chosen to feel that way?

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Originally Posted by Rob M
Life isn't as straight forward as you seem to think it is. If you spend your whole time reacting to every person who claims to be a victim, and chasing after every person that's accused of causing offence, you'll quite often miss the quiet person sat in the corner that really needs your help.
Sounds like you're the one trying to portray things as striaght forward: Investigate offences/reduce the risk of offence = missing someone who really needs help. Nice little equation you've invented there Rob.

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It's apparently not acceptable for any nurse to offer to pray for someone - I guess therefore that the answer to that question is no.
Indeed. If they truly believe in the power of prayer, then the target need not know they are in someone's prayers.
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