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rogerdraig · 11-01-2009, 18:27

smoking cost the NHS about Â£2.7 billion last year

see
http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=189736

but even though ASH did those calculations they still don't show the true figure as they don't include the many who end up being treated because of someone else's smoke affecting their asthma or other lung related ailments

i have been to hospital twice out of the 4 times last year because of an attack that started with someone else smoking near me and i have lost count of the extra medication i have had to take because of others peoples smoke ( thankfully a bit less now its getting banned from many places )

asthma cost the NHS Â£9 billion last year if even say 10% of that was added it would start to up that smoking cost
see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ug-Xolair.html

then start adding those with

ARDS
Bronchiectasis
Bronchopulmonary Dysplasia
Bronchoscopy
Cystic Fibrosis
Chronic Bronchitis (COPD)
Chronic Pulmonary Obstructive Disease (COPD)
Emphysema (COPD)
Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis
Lung Function Tests
Lung Ventilation Perfusion Scan (VQ scan)
Lymphangioleiomyomatosis (LAM)
Pleurisy and Other Pleural Disorders
Pleural Effusion
Pneumonia
Pneumothorax
Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension
Respiratory Distress Syndrome (RDS)
Sarcoidosis

then you can go on to heart attacks which although those who smoke are allready included they dont ingeneral include passive smoking ones in here and a number of place have now reported massive drops in heart attacks in areas where smoking has been banned in one orm or another

see here for one example

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...869585,00.html

so any finacial argument over the roughly Â£10 billion revenue from cigarettes is really a non starter

as to alcohol

it cost the nhs about Â£2.7 billion to Â£25.1 billion

see
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_170745

against

Â£453.4 billion revenue from alcohol

see

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/economy/taxation/alcohol-duties/alcohol-duties-$366621.htm

so i dont see how these can be compared

11-01-2009, 18:27	#123
rogerdraig cf.mega poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 2,509	Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned? smoking cost the NHS about Â£2.7 billion last year see http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=189736 but even though ASH did those calculations they still don't show the true figure as they don't include the many who end up being treated because of someone else's smoke affecting their asthma or other lung related ailments i have been to hospital twice out of the 4 times last year because of an attack that started with someone else smoking near me and i have lost count of the extra medication i have had to take because of others peoples smoke ( thankfully a bit less now its getting banned from many places ) asthma cost the NHS Â£9 billion last year if even say 10% of that was added it would start to up that smoking cost see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ug-Xolair.html then start adding those with ARDS Bronchiectasis Bronchopulmonary Dysplasia Bronchoscopy Cystic Fibrosis Chronic Bronchitis (COPD) Chronic Pulmonary Obstructive Disease (COPD) Emphysema (COPD) Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis Lung Function Tests Lung Ventilation Perfusion Scan (VQ scan) Lymphangioleiomyomatosis (LAM) Pleurisy and Other Pleural Disorders Pleural Effusion Pneumonia Pneumothorax Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension Respiratory Distress Syndrome (RDS) Sarcoidosis then you can go on to heart attacks which although those who smoke are allready included they dont ingeneral include passive smoking ones in here and a number of place have now reported massive drops in heart attacks in areas where smoking has been banned in one orm or another see here for one example http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...869585,00.html so any finacial argument over the roughly Â£10 billion revenue from cigarettes is really a non starter as to alcohol it cost the nhs about Â£2.7 billion to Â£25.1 billion see http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_170745 against Â£453.4 billion revenue from alcohol see http://www.politics.co.uk/news/economy/taxation/alcohol-duties/alcohol-duties-$366621.htm so i dont see how these can be compared