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Old 22-10-2008, 12:44   #60
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Re: Started as Proportional bills for a variable service?

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Originally Posted by Toto View Post
There would be much more of an outcry by many more users, and there would be other measurable factors such as independent speed tests if "all users" are being affected. Above all that, there would be massive migrations to other ISP's, and yet the figures from VM's own qarterly results do not supposrt this theory.
How? on letters you get from VM, there is no mention of STM, if you sign up through a letter, no mention of STM, unless you know where to look for it on their site, you wont know about it, its not in their T&Cs nor is it in their apparent FUP.

No mention when you sign up at all.

I think you'll find that most users who get slow speeds just think there is too many people signed up and get a tech called out or just 'put up' with it because its easier than change providers, alas, most people also stick around with the slow speeds because they keep getting really good retention deals to keep them on.

Alas, you need to look at their results properly, they had 30,000 net disconnects/losses, barely -any- sign ups, thats right, all those new customers? where? they are all current customers getting retention deals or upgrading to VIP etc, there is hardly any new customers, VM are infact losing them.

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How this has made the situation for worse for those who do not hammer their connections is quite frankly a common statement that has no reasonable evidence to support it.
STM is there so they can oversell bandwith, there is nothing more to it than that, one person gets stm'd, it boosts for another but slows for everyone else while that person downloads, all STM does ironically is help you get stm'd quicker and go in a loop of them being able to sign even more customers up.

100:1 contention ratio in baguley, fair?

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Originally Posted by whydoIneedatech View Post
You misread that part, I was not talking about STM, I was saying that less than 5% go on Forums to complain or praise.
Oh ok ok i let you off then for now
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