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Old 11-10-2008, 08:56   #240
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Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons?

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Originally Posted by Jbad View Post
Now we look up the target IP and, in a timely fashion, (not a year or more) contact the relative ISP and request the targets details. In the case of VM we would also request the “UBR” (Universal Broadband router) as this will eliminate a cloned VM modem which plagues the VM network…ever wondered why you have to keep rebooting your VM modem?? ( IP indicates subscriber is Mr X living in Southend, UBR say subscriber on Tyne and Wear UBR = Possible cloned modem = investigation dropped.

UBR details are not gathered by DL
I was kind of thinking your post was of interest, and then I read the above.

I'm going to assume you've never actually attempted to get this information from Virgin Media, or any other ISP, simply because you can't request the uBR in a court order. You are asking for customer details based on a tracked event which has provided you with an IP address, that is all you can reqeust under the data protection act, which is what a court order actually is in these cases.

You also make an assumption that VM "don't" check for a possible clone using the uBR, that's why you ask for it? So how would you know if that IP on that uBR was a cloned modem, if at all?

I'm not having a go here, but I am uncertain you fully understand what you are talking about.

But thank for the insight into your investigations.
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