I already had some i took with and without router ..
These are directly connected to the modem and PC no router :
Tracing route to
www.bbc.com [212.58.253.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms 10.7.72.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms osr02wolv-v15.network.virginmedia.net [80.195.128.4]
3 * 18 ms 13 ms jakarta-ge52.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.254.234]
4 * 13 ms * gsr-hsd-gw1-pos90.network.virginmedia.net [194.117.136.225]
5 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms osr-hsd-gw3.network.virginmedia.net [194.117.136.146]
6 18 ms 17 ms 26 ms bbc-gw0-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
7 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms 212.58.238.153
8 131 ms 19 ms 19 ms te12-1.hsw1.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.234]
9 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]
Tracing route to
www.virginmedia.com [212.250.162.12]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 7 ms * * 10.7.72.1
2 9 ms 7 ms 11 ms osr02wolv-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.31.176.41]
3 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms win-bb-b-ge-300-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.69]
4 16 ms * * win-dc-b-v900.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.188.166]
5 150 ms 16 ms 16 ms
www.virginmedia.com [212.250.162.12]
Trace complete.
tracert
www.google.co.uk
Tracing route to
www.l.google.com [216.239.59.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms 10.7.72.1
2 119 ms 9 ms 7 ms osr01wolv-v15.network.virginmedia.net [80.195.128.3]
3 22 ms 11 ms 11 ms man-bb-a-ge-130-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.65]
4 * 19 ms * pop-bb-b-as3-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.252.192.158]
5 18 ms * 18 ms tele-ic-2-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.184.6]
6 22 ms 19 ms 19 ms 212.250.14.138
7 163 ms 18 ms 19 ms 209.85.255.175
8 * 29 ms 29 ms 209.85.251.190
9 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms 64.233.174.185
10 35 ms 35 ms 34 ms 216.239.49.114
11 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms gv-in-f147.google.com [216.239.59.147]
Trace complete.
Hope they help

Lee
---------- Post added at 22:51 ---------- Previous post was at 22:46 ----------
I also spent 1 hour + on the help line tonight though 30 mins was trying to get the guy to understand my postcode :/
You call VM in the day they say call when the problem is happening , 6pm onwards all i can get is the help desk were i feel i am speaking to the guy from Fonejacker
Wierd how again tonight it now works fine again at 10pm ..
Example of a trace now 10.30pm :
Tracing route to
www.virginmedia.com [212.250.162.12]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.7.72.1
3 10 ms 9 ms 8 ms osr01wolv-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.31.176.40]
4 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms man-bb-a-ge-130-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.65]
5 35 ms 20 ms 19 ms win-bb-b-so-200-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.202]
6 61 ms 54 ms 24 ms win-dc-b-v900.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.188.166]
7 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms
www.virginmedia.com [212.250.162.12]
Trace complete.
Spot on .. come 6pm tomorrow ill be back to packet loss and timeouts till 10pm
Thanks for all your input and help guys it really is appreciated .
Lee