I was the original poster so was answering your post to me?
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Anyway back to the original poster
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That was me
EDIT: I'm not going to waste my time going to 1st line support with this, would be painful. I'd rather continue checking it out until I have something definitive. The trace I took eliminates any issues on my side anyway, network card listening in verbose mode, didn't see any responses until very very late and 2 of 3 lost, then nothing for rest of flow until it timed out.