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Old 11-09-2008, 13:31   #335
Chrysalis
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Re: Application Throttling/Management

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Originally Posted by TraxData2 View Post
Anything P2P is throttled down to 512K, this includes games which use p2p engine (wow for updates?)

The connection literally gets crippled if you open a p2p app and stays that way until you turn it off.

Usenet (even with SSL) gets throttled down to 512K also from 20/50Mbit.

No one knows the limits or rules as of yet.

It looks as if its turning out to be an all day/evening thing though.
I can sort of verify this.

Both my sisters use utorrent to download stuff.

One is on a VM 2meg connection, the other on a orange adsl connection.

Both were running slow and I told them its because they didnt cap their upload speeds on utorrent, when I uncapped it on the orange dsl line, utorrent itself sped up as well as other stuff like web browsing. On the VM line nothing happened everything stayed slow and didnt even get a boost on utorrent speeds.

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if VM start protocol throttling aka like plusnet and BT broadband then I would love to know how they justify it.

VM own their own network and backhaul, isps reselling BT wholesale services have to pay very high traffic costs to BT wholesale which is why traffic shaping is common on adsl and is why isps like BE and sky/ukonline have yet not had the need to do any throttling. VM also do charge higher prices than adsl retail, a up to 8meg on adsl can be quite easily had for under £20 and sometimes under £15 yet VM get much more then that for all high speed connections regardless of usage. So I have defenitly changed my views now on this and I think its a blatant attempt at profiteering at the cost of letting the service go downhill.

Anyone hoping that ofcom steps in dont hold your breath, so far they have ignored all the traffic shaping stuff on adsl and the ASA has no problem with isps selling unlimited and then limiting it. The only thing ofcom have done is asked isps who traffic shape to clarify it to customers and show how things are shaped. I expect VM have took the stance most other isps are doing so why not us.
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