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Old 31-08-2008, 06:44   #269
arcamalpha2004
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Re: Why Does Everyone Think Virgin Are Rubbish ?

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Originally Posted by Downloads View Post
I'm not sure you even read what i said.

They WON'T in an advert say that x% is made up of fibre and x% is made up of copper, that would be a really crap advert. They call it a fibre optic network which given the vast length of fibre compared to copper is absolutely fair enough.

Calling something a fibre optic network doesn't mean that it has to be 100% fibre to the home. I'm an analyst and from my experience companies make statements all the time that are sweeping. You don't have to qualify every statement you make in life.

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I don't need a history lesson on this site believe me. People use to complain a lot on their own issues more, there's just a hardcore of disgruntled people now who just post for the sake of it, one person here i remember arguing with a year ago and seems to just have been doing the same moaning for the last year.

Dont try to defend the indefensible Downloads.
You know aswell as me, or maybe you do not want to see it, that VM paint copper wire to be an evil incarnate.
" Broadband speeds on our Broadband is faster because we use Fibre optics, Broadband speeds slow down on other providers ( BT ) because they use copper in their network which is old and used for telephone lines "

So dont tell me that I should swallow the crap that VM peddle.
That is the end of my bit on the subject, VM will not say that they use copper on their network because that would defeat the BS they peddle.
Gladly most people know the truth.

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings View Post
Nah I don't get personal at companies, quite the opposite in VM's case I'd welcome them delivering fully on the massive potential and promise they have

Indeed, they are so full of hot air about what they will do, when all the time they are like a school report, must do better.

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Originally Posted by Downloads View Post
Thats cool, as long as it's nothing personal against VM lol I've told them to sod off before complained and moaned about specific issues.

My main beef is with one particular person who does have something personal against them, i just wish they would leave, cos being a positive person generally having to see the negativity on multiple threads when all you want to do is chat about the services and see balanced opinion is painful.

I left for a year and i think this is my call to leave for another one lol

I think if you read through the boards on here you will see a balanced scheme.
Sadly the forum doesnt have the " Positive only feedback " Button.
I will give you if I can a balanced opinion of VM in my own experience, because that is all I can do, its pointless critisising something if you have had no experience of the product, so here we go.
When I first joined NTL as it was I had the full package.
Telephone, Broadband and Television.
First to go was Television, because basically the box was a useless box of tricks that promised so much but did not deliver, despite numerous calls to overstretched cs at then NTL.
Then they tried to charge me almost £200 for telephone calls I did not make, these calls were apparently made between 2 and 3 in the morning when we were all in bed, because that particular week I had to be up at 4.30 for work.
Despite trying to convince them that the calls were not physiclly made by anyone in the house they insisted on the charge at first, then upon appeal cancelled them, but the experience was enough so I cancelled the telephone service and went to BT, strangely there have been no instances of this early hours pattern of alleged telephone calls.
So I am left with one product from them which I cannot really fault, I rarely get the full speed I pay for but it does the job I need.
If I was a big online gamer I might have issues, but generally its ok.
I have attempted to give a balanced opinion but that is hardly balanced is it? because of the three products I had with them I now only have one, I had major issues with two of the products, but I tried a balanced opinion.
Believe it or not Downloads I am a positive person, but there are times when VM stretch things to the limit.
VM waste millions of subscribers money every year trying to paint a picture of their services that is the proverbial leonardo, sadly a lot of the time the paint is still wet!
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