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Originally Posted by TraxData2

Cable is not in a dire state, just people in VM dont know how to run a company (neil mainly who has destroyed it).

They are in a dire state though, they have £6bn worth of debt. Their the worst off in their sector. Neil has mainly destroyed it? NOOOOO, since Neil Berkett took over it the company has posted the best quarters cable ever has in it's history! Record people signing up, cable is the fastest growing paytv and bb business in it's marketable areas.

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Things are different now, we wasnt so behind back then.

Things are no different! They are still lumbered with billions of debt that they won't be able to pay back for the forseeable future and were are talking decades. They still have limited access to the country unlike their competition.

Originally Posted by TraxData2

VM bought out other networks for the most part...

Yeah they did and inherited the debt that goes along with it.

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Why should VM who have a monopoly over cable/fibre be allowed access to bts FTTH/N (and they do want access...) then? it works both ways you know.

No it doesn't work both ways though, VM own their network. BT don't own theirs the UK tax payer does. I have already explained why i won't do it again.

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Actually, they have offered fibre in the past, just at high prices which no ISP was interested in (VM use some of bts network btw )

Yeah they offered it out and no one was interested because they were ripping people off. BT have also stated to ofcom that they won't bother investing unless they can charge high prices to see high return. BT want to make the investment worth their while whilst all the time still running from the head end to the cab of the UK taxpayers financed network.

Yeah VM use BTs network because everyone in the country contributed to paying for it. Therefore those that are outside of VM on net network have the choice of opting for ADSL bb. VM paid for their own network and therefore don't have to let everyone else use it.

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

Virgin Media arent in a dire state look at the Q2 results, only problem is they dont invest enough in any service

I also do think as Trax does bring alot of info regarding VM which most turns out to be true, he does have a hatered towards VM maybe because he knows more than the average joe

Yeah Quarter 2 was their lowest performance yet. They posted an operating profit last quarter and now have posted a £336m loss!

He has a hatred towards vm because he knows more than most? Yeah ok then