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Originally Posted by BexTech
When BT bring out their fibre service, they might not cap the speed like VM do, but they may well cap the amount you can download.
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Incorrect, they have their plans and it isnt going to involve any sort of shaping/throttling (infact, they are getting new hardware in place to handle p2p more effienctly for FTTH).
They have huge network capacity (much, much, much more than VM)
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I would rather have STM than a hard cap, however the limits VM have set for STM are way way too low.
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I wouldnt, excuse me but sometimes you know, just sometimes, i actually like to be able to use my connection to its full potential when im actually at home, STM is worse than a hard cap as with STM you can NEVER use it when you're actually there (to what you need it to, at least) only when you are 1)fast asleep or 2)..err, oh yea, since daytime STM there is no number 2.
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Originally Posted by Toto
OK, but how many homes, and in what areas will their FTTH pass. That question needs answering before you make a general assumption that VM's customer base will be tested to the limit.
We are talking a few years away, and personally I believe that the amount BT says it needs to spend to realise a fibre network that can compete with VM and possibly H2O seems awfully small. I don't doubt their intent, but I am wondering how much of the announcement was more for the financial markets in what is a very difficult time right now.
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They have some BIG plans which are not public knowledge right now, but over the next year or so (when VM apparently offer their *premium* 50Mbit) you'll see more info on what BT are upto (i will note that alot of places are interested in bts fibre rollout and there will be alot more FTTH areas than you think if it can be worked out ok with wholesalers, which will be in talks soon)
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Don't get me wrong, if there is ever a serious competition to my very good non STM'd 20Mb service, and its competitive, then VM will have competition as far as I am concerned.
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Since STM VM already have competition, believe it or not most people can get pretty fast ADSL+2 speeds, while most people are in the 10Mbit range on ADSL2 it is still MUCH better than VM's 20Mbit as you can actually use it when you need it without worrying about having 75% of your connection taken from you, before the merger, VM have no competition as it was pretty much unlimited, although having problems in a few areas (network falling apart) overall customer satisfaction was pretty high, this has changed since the introduction of STM, the people who know about it, well, alot have left (infact, VMs service speedy down here as over 150 people have left just on the last 5 streets since the introduction of STM).
Most of the others i know havent left but have resorted to cloned modems, which these days i just dont care about.
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Yes, we don't, nor does BT know exactly what they may have to do when the bandwidth hogs jump ship to BT.
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Oh BT know, that's all i'll say for now