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Originally Posted by brundles

Surely you've seen enough of my posts now to realise I certainly don't assume anything above 100meg is illegal? Dig back and you'll find half of my complaints about STM are the limits on the current packages and the other half are that VM provide no useful way for a networked household to work out what it's usage is during that period.

Just to point out, i actually meant that to be pointed towards VM and not you, sorry about the confusion.

I agree that only the stupid (who deserve what they get) will pay for 50meg just to grab a few MP3s (although you can be sure that's how VM will quote the generosity of the limit).

Which is the customers VM want, people who will pay for a top tier product and never use it, they dont want users to actually do anything with their connections.

The HD streaming sounds interesting - and is exactly the thing I referred to as something that would make the limits poor. It is possible that those on their own would break the thresholds. The other things are problems but not ones that will be hit daily - as they can be now, even with the 20meg package.

I'm unsure as to how the HD stream will work, it may be like TiscaliTV where the usage doesnt directly affect the conneciton and wont be counted towards STM but i'm pretty sure its just general streaming using the Net so as you say, it seems rather idiotic to put STM on a package like that, the HD service requires a minimum of 20Mbit to stream efficiently (as per the trials) so users wont be able to use it at all once STM'd.

At least the 10meg left is still a reasonably fast connection -more than can be said for the others. Not the 50meg people are paying for though.

If it was done properly yes it's fast enough, though not when you're paying a premium price!!!

Though as noted before, how VM handle the AKPackets and upstream packets means you wont see 10Mbit down and just as with current STM, multitasking will be impossible without crippling the connection.

The thing is that TBH, I suspect that VM are more concerned about the quantity of data you receive rather than the speed to get it. As I keep saying, I can't help but feel that VM are trying to push people on to higher speeds when they don't actually need the speed but need the STM allowance that speed gives them.

I personally believe VM are only introducing 50Mbit just to stick their middle finger up at BT/ADSL/ADLS+2 and say "ner ner look at us" aka "small *aherm* syndrome"

And yes, its become blatantly obvious that the STM on the lower tiers has been put in to basically force customers upto a higher tier package just to get the speeds they are paying for.