Peter N

"I have no huge answers, but you are not going to stop this (completely) as long as people want quality and relevant content – so surely will be better if we can think how can we ensure that there is an acceptable line for all parties that delivers relevance whilst maintaining (a degree) of anonymity?" - Feesch

You keep claiming to know what people want but you provide no evidence. This is exactly what BT have done and it flies in the face of the facts. Like BT you claim this widespread desire for "relevent" advertising and you write very nicely but once you remove the pretty prose and unsupported claims then there's nothing left but one of a handful of people who sees a way to make a quick buck at our expense.

So far, 16,000 people have signed a Downing St petition to oppose this one system and there's no sign of anyone outside of the ISPs and the advertising industry actually supporting it's use.

Your claims are simply not supported by the facts but we're used to you people by now so we'll just leave you to get on with making some more money while we concentrate on doing the right thing.

For everyone else reading this - just remember that advertsing people like Feesch manipulate facts for a living.

Don't be taken in by the "it's too late" garbage in Feesch's posts. Nothing could be further from truth or we would all be using these systems, the British and American ISPs would not running scared as they are at present and people like him wouldn't be crawling around a forum like this trying to run a pro-Phorm advertising campaign. All his posts prove is that the people with nothing but £££ signs in their heads are getting desparate.

We are doing the right thing for the right reasons and we are winning.