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Old 01-08-2008, 09:49   #234
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Re: Why Does Everyone Think Virgin Are Rubbish ?

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 View Post
Where is your evidence that BT will not be providing to VM areas?
After all, if they are after " Max penetration " that you refer to your statement with all respect is blown out the water.
I for one would welcome any competition that gives the choice that even Richard Branson has stated customers should have.
People in vm areas could easily switch if BT are offering a better deal, which is all about choice after all, I do not agree with your sentiments at all with due respect.

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BT have said to ofcom that they won't bother doing it unless there is something in it for them. In other words it can be read as they want maximum profit from their investment. They won't get this if they fibre up VM areas because competition will be rife and most VM customers now take 1,2 or even 3 or 4 services from VM which makes it much harder for BT to persuade them to move over to them. In the same report BT have said they want Ofcom to relax regs so they can get a decent return from their investment, in other words they want to charge a decent price for their bb offerings. I hope VM do get some competition and it drives prices down. It gives the likes of me more choice and better prices because they have to fight for my custom.

What do you mean you don't agree with my sentiments? I am more than happy for VM to have the competition if it means i get a better deal but from what BT have said it doesn't look likely and looks like they would sooner fibre up non cabled areas and therefore there would be no competition which means BT can demand a higher return for their fibre optic bb and won't be challenged.

When i said max penetration i meant max customer penetration, the only way they can do this and gurantee a good income from their investment is start of cabling non vm areas where there is no competition apart from ADSL and LLU ADSL+2


Atleast you admit that vm slows down for some reason, vm advertising BS does not even claim that their service slows down at all! merely ridiculing any other service provider, bring on the competition thats what I say.
VM must be a tad worried, how much are these adverts that they are running?
Why wouldn't i admit it? I think you are confusing me with someone else and think that i am gullibe to VM's PR spin which i am not. I am fully aware of what VM offers says and what it actually delivers.

I also welcome the competition but it won't be for years yet and even then BT won't own a whole fibre optic network and will still be stuck with an ageing infrastructure which is rotting under the ground and will require significant investment in the future. Bring on 100 MEG i can't wait to have more choice but by then i wholy expect VM to be offering even higher speeds as they have the head start.

Of course all this is indeed speculating and i never suggested i was posting facts. I am just reading into the reports and giving my opinion which i am entitled to as are you.
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