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Old 30-07-2008, 12:35   #229
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Re: Why Does Everyone Think Virgin Are Rubbish ?

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Originally Posted by tvtimes View Post
You really think BT's recent announcement that it will be rolling out fibre will come to VM's areas? Not likely mate. BT have insisted they won't make the investment unless ofcom slack regs which means they are able to make a worthwhile profit from their investment. This stink to me of BT wanting to charge over inflated prices to offer fibre bb connections. They also want max penetration of the market and have no competition which also tells me that they won't be doing it in VM areas for the forseeable future because they want to invest in areas where they are going to make money and where there is competition they won't make the sort of money they can if they offered fibre optic bb in non vm areas.
Its more to do with not been forced to wholesale their product at cost. BT will do city areas primarily thats a forgone conclusion. BTw is losing customers to LLU, rolling out fibre to LLU ares (which are typically also cable areas) is the best way to get those customers back. You right it may well cost more, but that isn't necessairly a bad thing because currently retail prices on many adsl isps at the moment is too low and stopping investment.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C View Post
Based upon past performance, I doubt Sky would do that. What they may be trialling is a Homechoice/Tiscali style IPTV system based upon ADSL. Not sure they'd even trial that, as any such system would be competing against Sky's satellite system as well.

Unless, of course, VOD has affected Sky more than they are willing to let on, after all with the current Sky, Sky + and Sky HD boxes it is impossible to create a system that offers the amount of content Virgin's VOD does.
It is true sky have been trialling fibre to the cabinet, probably for VOD style services I expect. Sky anytime on the sky+ boxes has always only been an intermediate service. ADSL wont cut it on its without FTTC/H because only approx 25% of lines would have enough bandwidth to reliably supply the service.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar View Post
Arthur, Sky bought EasyNet a couple of years ago, which gives them a network and local loop access, so your rumour is in fact, history.
They have their own backhaul, but not their own local loop.
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