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Old 20-07-2008, 18:00   #12362
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by HaveToBeAnon View Post

5. Bt have said that they will add websites to an exclusion list, provided the webmaster contacts BT and says so, providing proof that he is in fact the webmaster. What about foreign language websites. Anyone know a website owner in, say Hungary. Get them to write to Emma, *in hungarian*, asking to not be profiled. Would be interesting to see what happens! Repeat for as many bizarre languages as possible.
Thanks for keeping us posted.

On the question of webmasters begging BT not to profile their web sites, I take exception to what they're asking. Its up to BT to obtain consent (ie, a copyright licence and consent for interception) before processing private unencrypted communication traffic for any purpose other than onward transmission. Anything else is illegal.

Webmasters should not have to beg ISPs around the globe not to steal their content, or profile their customers/users. Its simply wrong, in the same sense that stealing MP3 files is wrong or bugging your nextdoor neighbour is wrong.

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Oh, just another thought while I'm here.

BT have, as you would expect, a whole team of security experts who's job it is the keep the backbone infrastructure secure and reliable, and it has to be said do a pretty good job. What you would not expect is that they weren't even consulted, and discovered about phorm at the same time as the rest of us, ie February, and their head man, I won't mention names so lets call him JR, went absolutely ape-s..t on hearing about it.

Thats an indication of just how secret this has been within BT, keeping it from people who would instantly recognise it for what it was.
I'm sure they did go ape. The security people would also face difficult questions themselves. Why did no alarm bells ring when someone installed this garbage in the network? Why did no one in BT security spot the interference with traffic? What security measures were in place to stop someone gaining access to this equipment, and how were they so easily circumvented?

So to summarise what we now know; the trials in 2006/7 were secret, conducted without Home Office knowledge, without ICO knowledge, without BT Security being informed or discovering, using 'closed source' kit supplied by Russians, with alleged history of rootkits/spyware, during a period of critical/severe national security alert, and profiling tens if not hundreds of thousands of customer's traffic (including judges, lawyers, military, civil servants, medics, police, politicians), not once but twice.

And not one MP in Parliament has yet found it appropriate to ask the Government for an explanation. Perhaps I need to write to my MP again?

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