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Old 19-07-2008, 17:22   #12305
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by R Jones View Post
I agree with John Horb. One practical comment - Thursday's Lord's questions were characterised by some blurring of boundaries between:
  • DPI/Behaviourally targeted advertising/Phorm/Webwise (Miller/Northes)
  • File sharing, music and game copyrights and monitoring/prosecution and release of names and addresses by ISP's/google to copyright holders of said music/games
  • The government's plans for new "super database".

This whole area is complicated enough for our technophobe legislators, and I'd like to keep the NO DPI/NO PHORM/NO WEBWISE question in clear blue water away from the other two - even though there IS overlap. At the moment it is clarity and understanding that we are looking for - and mixing the different things in this thread won't help. I'm not against the other things - I just don't want to have to constantly try and differentiate them here and in contacts with legislators and opinion formers.

The task once again

Find the UNinphormed
and the DEphormed
and get them INphormed
so that they become REphormed


and once again - hello to any guests. For background reading to give you quick opportunity to learn about Webwise see a few user/newbie friendly links here
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34...post11849.html
I also tend to agree with Robert. Although there is a much bigger picture that is more important, Phorm/WebWise is something very tangible and very close to home and it is that problem that we can use to drive home the privacy issues that are being exploited. Lets get the public support against this issue and use this support to tackle the greater issues later. There is too much dilution within this WebWise thread "Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts" already and although we are concentrating mainly on Phorms presence in the BT system and using that issue against VM's adoption, let us not forget what this thread is about. We still have a large percentile of the General population to educate about Phorm.

As I have said before, we can only eat an Elephant a bite at a time and if we take on-board within this thread other issues in detail, I believe we have a good chance of losing the opportunity to educate our readers against Phorm specifically. It is difficult enough for us to handle all the issues within this thread already and we will get lost within high level legal arguments that will alienate the average reader if we take on-board in detail the EC issues.

I suggest we let the UKCrypto type threads or perhaps another new thread debate these greater issues for which, Alex, I add you have my support.

We can always reference that 'other' thread from within this one when relevant.
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