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Old 18-07-2008, 11:22   #12088
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff View Post
You all missed the really meaty result of the AGM protest which was the debate about the covert trials in HoL today!!!

http://www.publications.parliament.u...ldtoday/02.htm
Well done to Radio 4 for including much of the sound track from this debate in their parliament report this morning. It was given the prime 8:55 slot.

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer is an amazing speaker. The written words did not give credit to the strength and depth of her presentation. If she had made her short speech to the BT AGM they would not have dared summarise the words as being some questions.

Lord Roberts of Llandudno was also given air time this morning as part of the short sound extract. His mention of "and the use of this technology, especially by Virgin Media, to write to 800 customers warning them about this downloading" - does anyone know what he is talking about? I suspect it is to do with the video and music file sharing. If so, it does show that there is a great deal of misunderstanding about the 2 different methods of detecting.

However, it does show how easy it is for a script which is sitting somewhere other than within the ISP to also capture a lot of data about what people are doing on the internet. If people feel that a script 'in the wild' is damaging to their privacy, once they understand what DPI is capable of doing .... coupled with misunderstanding .... the thought does not bare thinking about.

Just look at how excited people are getting at the tracking now being done by scripts hosted by search engines. Those in the know have been talking about these scripts and privacy invasion for 2 - 3 or more years and, until now, very few people have been listening. The free analytics have been seen as an essential tool for sites that have poor hosting that does not provide access to logs. Even commercial sites are happy to host this script and give away all their visitor data - they even host an https version on the login and shopping cart pages.

No wonder so many people feel that websites will not be an issue when it comes to DPI interception.

The problem seems to be that there is a whole generation of web developers that know no more than that there is a free analytics script available that they can host i t on a website and then charge their client a fortune for ever month when they print off a few pages of a report. I just feel so sorry for the clients that are paying to give away their commercial secrets.
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