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Old 17-07-2008, 11:23   #11934
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by tarka View Post
BT to begin further trials of ad technology

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/34c59420-5...077b07658.html

"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also run trials."

A misinformed journalist perhaps or is there more to it?

"Gavin Patterson, head of BT Retail, told the group’s annual general meeting that customers would again have to opt-in for the service." (my bold emphasis)

Isn't this more deliberate misinformation? The previous trials were not opt in... they didn't even have an opt out!
Oh dear - more errors

"BT will begin further trials in the next few weeks" - they've been saying that since March. Care to name the day? As the song goes, "For Gavin's sake, get me to the trials on time"

"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also run trials." - really? How interesting. I'm sure the ICO and the customers would like to know about that. Perhaps even VM and CPW would like to know too.Or were you referring to small scale intranet "lab trials" and hoping we were asleep?

"customers would again have to opt-in for the service." - when did customers ever get the chance to opt-IN previously? They never even had the chance to opt-OUT. They just got snooped on covertly. so let's ignore that FALSE UNTRUTHFUL word "again" shall we Gavin? Let's admit the truth and say the last time you did a trial it was COVERT, and the customers not only didn't get asked for consent, when they DID contact BT, they got told porkies. (ask Stephen Mainwaring)

"He added that the Information Commissioner had also cleared the technology of breaching data laws."

- Really?

Which Information Commissioner was that?

The one who said that there had probably been a "technical" breach? I don't remember any Information Commissioner giving the covert trials a clean bill of health on the area of legality. In fact he said, in a letter to BT on 30th May 2008 (part of the FOI bundlefrom Dephormation's request)

"Whilst it does appear likely that a technical breach of the requirements of the Regulations occurred in the 2006 and 2007 trials, there is no evidence to suggest significant detriment to the individuals involved." (and Stepeh Mainwaring's evidence as to his having suffered significant detriment is now with the ICO and police)

Come on Gavin. Start taking some truth pills. This sort of statement from a highly paid BT exec is nothing short of disgraceful. Talk about "economical with the truth". It's downright stingy. It certainly won't wash in the police interviews.
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