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Old 17-07-2008, 08:09   #11916
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Matari View Post
I think the answer is to use the Safari web browser - from the BT Community Forums (http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/th...180&tstart=0):

BT Webwise works with most major browsers, including Internet Explorer, Firefox, Netscape and Opera. Safari is not supported by the BT Webwise system. BT Webwise has been tested and proven to work with the following:

Internet Explorer 5.5, 6.0, 7.0
Firefox 1.0, 1.5, 2.0
Opera 7.54, 8.54, 9.0

It is the first time as a Mac user that I am glad that something is not compatible!

You can get Safari here:

For Mac: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
For PC: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...safari311.html
For the benefit of newcomers: Don't get too hung up about what phorm does or does not do. We have already seen how its claimed behaviour has been tweaked on the fly as more blatant examples of illegal practices have been uncovered. It is clear from the phorm patent application that it can potentially be far more intrusive than currently admitted to. In an injudicious moment they were also caught on the record boasting that 'phorm can see the entire Internet'.

The fact is that BT (or whatever ISP) is streaming a copy of all your browsed data into a 'black box' provided by phorm. No-one is able to audit or verify what goes on inside the box. We are expected to trust that the box will only do what they say. Would you trust a bunch of crooks who previously made their money by tricking people into downloading spyware? Because in its previous incarnation as 121media this is exactly what phorm did. They have now discovered that it is easier for them to bribe ISPs into providing the data instead.

BT Retail has been incredibly naive in going along with this so far, blinded no doubt by the prospect of easy money and maybe some inside help to sweetheart the technology into the company. That's why the only way to avoid the technology would be to move to a guaranteed phorm (or NebuAd ar Frontporch) -free ISP.
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