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Old 26-06-2008, 20:32   #174
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Re: Application Throttling/Management

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Originally Posted by TraxData View Post
Games cause problems on sky as well, thus why they no longer let you keep interleaving on (i believe?)

They use more uplink bandwith than you think and believe it or not there is alot more gamers than there is p2p users online at the same time, each card is only 38mbit and uplinks soon get saturated (this is the main reason for slow speeds, rather than people downloading 24/7)
some honesty at last Downloaders have been the scapegoat for god knows how long, how this came about maybe isps planted people to start it off on forums, and isps themselves directly passing the blame on. But ultimately the cause of congestion is overselling of the product, over subscription, over contended what term people prefer the most.

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Originally Posted by brundles View Post
What you say makes sense, but the lack of throttling is also a competitive advantage - one that VM are still trumpeting about (albeit in a very carefully worded fashion!). While VMs new customer, discounted, prices are relatively competitive their standard prices are distinctly uncompetitive - something people have agreed to pay because of that previously mentioned competitive advantage.

Will VM be revising their pricing strategy in line with the revised service? Somehow I doubt it.
I dont know of any isps openly advertising they dont throttle other than aaisp and only on their own website. The biggest marketing tool in the uk at current is low price followed by high burst speed. Its why various adsl isps have no issue selling a 24mbit product for £10 that less than 1% of people will get that speed and is clearly oversold. I do know of isps saying that the fact they throttle as well is to improve your connection so they sometimes use it as a selling point. Throttling/shaping has infected the uk marketplace and is considered as normal practice now and is very worrying.
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