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popper · 25-06-2008, 19:08

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/newsb...rtising-rules/
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EC to update online commerce and advertising rules

Posted by Richard in Computer Law at June 25th, 2008
Outlaw.com reports:

A new set of consumer contract laws to harmonise the rules that govern online selling across the EU will be proposed this autumn by the European Commission. The EU’s consumer chief also promised fresh guidance on viral adverts and profiling technology."

http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=9208
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E-commerce laws to be rewritten by European Commission

OUT-LAW News, 25/06/2008

A new set of consumer contract laws to harmonise the rules that govern online selling across the EU will be proposed this autumn by the European Commission. The EU's consumer chief also promised fresh guidance on viral adverts and profiling technology.

Addressing a roundtable on digital issues in London on Friday, European Consumer Commissioner Meglena Kuneva said that while e-commerce is succeeding at national level, cross-border e-commerce is failing to keep pace. The European Commission believes that simpler and better-harmonised consumer laws will boost the sector.

The results of EU surveys among 26,000 consumers and 7,200 businesses were announced by Kuneva on Friday. They show that while a third of the EU's 490 million consumers have bought something online, only seven percent have bought from foreign suppliers.

Of those with web access at home, 56% have bought online; but only 13% have made a cross-border purchase.
"These figures underline how much work we still have to do to boost confidence in the online internal market," said Kuneva.

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thats a lot of potential Phorm Intercepted datastreams to add to their unlawful "derivative works" for their profit at the direct expense of the end users and their right to privacy and copyright enforcement.

another failed law enforcement as they hope we cant afford the court fees to uphold and enforce our rights in a private case.

Baroness (Sue) we Ordinary End Users, that cant afford real "High Court" Justice costs to get a fair hearing/ruling, need a way to hold these Private companys to account , get real with FOI(Freedom of Information Act) and amend it to include any and all Uk registered Uk companys , make it enforcable in law, make sure that law is acted upon and as least investigated...

your good self, Lord Northesk,the Earl of Erroll, etc, are showing us direct proof that you take these matters seriously, but until theres a real way for the average End users to take steps and set in motion some form of action, a clear path to bring obvious breaches of current law to some form of Investigation, we all loose, except the Executive, Board rooms, and the investors OC.

this Phorm matter as a clear case in point, we the direct End Users effected have got questions asked in the house and the HOL, but look at the responses, its like they are in play group, "(1)its not me, (2)he did it" so you go and ask (2), no, sorry not me, you need to ask (3), you ask (3), nope not us, see (1) ....

round and round the users go, and all the time nothing is investigated,or actioned, we need to stop this NOW, set clear and exact rules and stick to them.

on the off chance ill just ask , would your good self, Lord Northesk,the Earl of Erroll and any others you might have access to, like to meet Alexander and the many Effected End Users here that are going to the protest see Alexanders #10000

not to join us in protest OC (unless that is your personal stance and wish,if you have BT Installed in your offices and/or homes and will also be subject to this Phorm Interception Of course dont forget that and tell your peers ) but rather, to take advantage of having face to face Informal chats with Us (non tech and tech alike)and a mutual swapping of information and potential informed idea's while we are all in the same place....

its not often people get down to london but many are making the concerted effort were they can to be there in person, so it seems like your chance to meet many of them there or send a rep to the meeting, book a local room for an after the event , all of you Lords etc, can host your own relaxing roundtable information chat.

and remember, even the people that cant get there in person for whatever reason, travelling costs, time off, disability ,etc, will hopefully get to be there in spirit, and online at least, if the realtime wireless web connections manage to keep up, as we watch any sound and video clips the attendees manage to upload realtime etc.

25-06-2008, 19:08	#10137
popper Inactive Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,270	Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] http://www.openrightsgroup.org/newsb...rtising-rules/ " EC to update online commerce and advertising rules Posted by Richard in Computer Law at June 25th, 2008 Outlaw.com reports: A new set of consumer contract laws to harmonise the rules that govern online selling across the EU will be proposed this autumn by the European Commission. The EU’s consumer chief also promised fresh guidance on viral adverts and profiling technology." http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=9208 " E-commerce laws to be rewritten by European Commission OUT-LAW News, 25/06/2008 A new set of consumer contract laws to harmonise the rules that govern online selling across the EU will be proposed this autumn by the European Commission. The EU's consumer chief also promised fresh guidance on viral adverts and profiling technology. Addressing a roundtable on digital issues in London on Friday, European Consumer Commissioner Meglena Kuneva said that while e-commerce is succeeding at national level, cross-border e-commerce is failing to keep pace. The European Commission believes that simpler and better-harmonised consumer laws will boost the sector. The results of EU surveys among 26,000 consumers and 7,200 businesses were announced by Kuneva on Friday. They show that while a third of the EU's 490 million consumers have bought something online, only seven percent have bought from foreign suppliers. Of those with web access at home, 56% have bought online; but only 13% have made a cross-border purchase. "These figures underline how much work we still have to do to boost confidence in the online internal market," said Kuneva. " thats a lot of potential Phorm Intercepted datastreams to add to their unlawful "derivative works" for their profit at the direct expense of the end users and their right to privacy and copyright enforcement. another failed law enforcement as they hope we cant afford the court fees to uphold and enforce our rights in a private case. Baroness (Sue) we Ordinary End Users, that cant afford real "High Court" Justice costs to get a fair hearing/ruling, need a way to hold these Private companys to account , get real with FOI(Freedom of Information Act) and amend it to include any and all Uk registered Uk companys , make it enforcable in law, make sure that law is acted upon and as least investigated... your good self, Lord Northesk,the Earl of Erroll, etc, are showing us direct proof that you take these matters seriously, but until theres a real way for the average End users to take steps and set in motion some form of action, a clear path to bring obvious breaches of current law to some form of Investigation, we all loose, except the Executive, Board rooms, and the investors OC. this Phorm matter as a clear case in point, we the direct End Users effected have got questions asked in the house and the HOL, but look at the responses, its like they are in play group, "(1)its not me, (2)he did it" so you go and ask (2), no, sorry not me, you need to ask (3), you ask (3), nope not us, see (1) .... round and round the users go, and all the time nothing is investigated,or actioned, we need to stop this NOW, set clear and exact rules and stick to them. on the off chance ill just ask , would your good self, Lord Northesk,the Earl of Erroll and any others you might have access to, like to meet Alexander and the many Effected End Users here that are going to the protest see Alexanders #10000 not to join us in protest OC (unless that is your personal stance and wish,if you have BT Installed in your offices and/or homes and will also be subject to this Phorm Interception Of course dont forget that and tell your peers ) but rather, to take advantage of having face to face Informal chats with Us (non tech and tech alike)and a mutual swapping of information and potential informed idea's while we are all in the same place.... its not often people get down to london but many are making the concerted effort were they can to be there in person, so it seems like your chance to meet many of them there or send a rep to the meeting, book a local room for an after the event , all of you Lords etc, can host your own relaxing roundtable information chat. and remember, even the people that cant get there in person for whatever reason, travelling costs, time off, disability ,etc, will hopefully get to be there in spirit, and online at least, if the realtime wireless web connections manage to keep up, as we watch any sound and video clips the attendees manage to upload realtime etc.