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Originally Posted by TraxData

-rolls eyes- they dont affect the network enough to cause a problem, when setup properly they can do this and ample bandwith will still be available.

A working example of how the network could handle a large number of subscribers using their full bandwidth would be useful.

Yes no choice, reduce what they download? again why should they? they are paying for a connection to which they want to use, your comment here makes no sense? that goes back to putting xbox360 on overnight just to play a demo the next day, so much for files now! what about if you pay for a movie online? those links only work for 24 hours you know, want them to download that overnight as well? you fail to see that because everyone has shifted to heavy downloaders overnight we are having night STM as well, when should they download? In VM's eyes, never.

You've again ignored that they're supplied with a contended connection.
I offered a number of "choices" that you claimed were not available. But of course it's completely impossible to play xbox online while STM'd and utterly unrealistic to watch the movie while STM'd?

Most would think yours are laugable, all because you dont really do anything with your connection doesnt mean others are the same.

Again you just do not get it at all, i hate to cause offense but read this slowly and clearly ceedee, STM does not at current affect downloaders as they just move to overnight downloading.

You think 100-150GB/month isn't using my connection?
The last I heard, the average data usage for a VM customer was 6GB/month.

HOWEVER, normal users want to do the stuff i mentioned, they do not want to download 115GB over a 24 hour period, they want their demo their streams and so fourth, barely hitting 115GB/Month never mind 24 hours and it IS THEM who are being penalised and having half of their connection taken away from them, you sitting here and publishing "115GB/24 Hour Period" means literally nothing to normal web users, they aint heavy downloaders, do you get it, yet?

Show me an XL user who's seriously affected by STM without any avoidable downloads that seriously couldn't be postponed until after 9pm and I'll begin to accept your assertion.
Or an 10Mb/s user who *needs* the full speed to download more than 1.2GB during the peak period?

And yet they still get stm'd and get called "abusers" by VM, it's all a farce to get them to upgrade making them think they need to.

I'm sure they'll be able to sue VM for such terrible emotional damage!

So yes, it is useless for normal users.
VM are not going to learn as their 50mbit has STM also.

If you seriously think that STM makes VM's services completely useless then I think we'd better agree to disagree, mate.
I'm certainly not happy that VM believe it's necessary and accept that working around the thresholds can be a pain but it's still way better than any other ISP's connection I've had in over 12 years.

---------- Post added at 23:57 ---------- Previous post was at 23:52 ----------

Originally Posted by TraxData

Here we go again...5 hours my friend, not a "couple" and again your not understand things here, try multitasking while your stm'd, it's physically impossible

I really can't be bothered to argue when you make such ridiculous statements. I don't generally disagree with you but your attitude is impossible.