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Originally Posted by m419
Well the water companies are not going to do it for nothing! I mean Thames Water which covers much of Berkshire and London needs to replace all the victorian sewers by a fixed date, so they will be wanting some money for that, otherwise profits are gonna be falling.
And because Virgin Media has already got a customer base and because of the fact that its already fibre optic and that it covers more than half of UK homes means that by the time H20 complete roll-out, Virgin Media would have completed its upgrades and maybe even expansion of the network and by that time Virgin Media will be offering Cable broadband half the price of what H20 would be offering.
Also, some people jut dont care how fast there internet is, many people just use the net for email,facebook ect.... which means 1MB is suitable and some people would even put up with 128K!
And one last thing how much money do you think other companies have? firms like France Telecom,Cable and Wireless and Thus would through a lot of money into if they all merged up.
I think all the companies which have been using BT's network for piggybacking should chip in too and get BT's network upgraded, that includes BT chipping in too.
So far we have:
Tiscali
Cable and Wireless
Virgin Media
Thus' Demon internet
France Telecom-Orange PCS
Sky
Opal Telecom(TalkTalk/CPW/AOL)
Telefonica-O2
Verizon
Colt
And loads more using BT's network.
Many different companies have tried using techniques to get the internet moving but are really no good enough.
Cable and Wireless is the largest LLU provider and supplies very few abandoned residential users who never paid there bills to Bulldog before it was sold off. But many C&W LLU is used by other providers such as Virgin,Tiscali,The Post Office and Tesco Broadband and maybe O2???? Not too sure about O2, however C&W provides O2's Mobile internet to O2 customers. The maximum speed through this between 16MB and 20MB although Tiscali finds it hard to put an extra 50p in the meter and upgrade its customers to 16MB.
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VirginMedia is only fibre optic upto a local exchange point, its COAX to you after that, so no they are not exactly fibre optic, BT is fibre optic then copper to you, the only difference is VM distance is alot shorter and thus faster speeds.
Err, you do realise with H2o a full city rollout would only take 6 months, right?
2-3 Years could see the whole of the UK done and with faster speeds than what VM would ever be able to offer.
Most customers dont care what speeds they recieve? your seriously wrong there...and IPTV is on its way, we need fast speeds.
BT will be rolling fiber out at a cost of £15b, you can thank offcom that other companies using BT's network wont have to chip in.
Just remember BT have been down this route before and it was blair who said no to digging up all the roads ready for fibre, then again in the late 90s but BT decided against because they would be forced to open it up, yet again, funny how VM have a fully monopoly yet dont have to open their network up though
There is ALOT of things going off behind the scenes right now, and if they go to plan, VM will best left WAY WAY WAY behind unless they buck their idea's up.
Alas, H2o is not a trial to see if the fibre rollout will work, its more to prove to local councils and the govt that it works.