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Old 07-06-2008, 07:54   #8333
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by labougie View Post
I think you get me wrong. I simply think that your children would be better protected by taking a stand over VPN - many of us must use it already, and at this point, shouldn't we all switch to https and then see exactly WHO is going to challenge us over that? And why? Phorm is only ONE enemy. Larger picture, guys!

---------- Post added at 07:45 ---------- Previous post was at 07:41 ----------

They'll never sue you in a million years!
VPN and https are too exclusive and by that I mean they exclude far too many people. Processing everything over https is going to mean costs for non profits are going to rise and as a result communities like cableforum will struggle to emerge. There is a magnitude of difference in processing requirements for a busy web server between http and https and many non profit sites would simply never survive without resorting to advertising which many people do not want to do.

VPN is impractical because it excludes all but the technically tuned in, meaning the majority of people will be excluded.

But more importantly, we should not have to resort to subterfuge in order to obtain liberty and privacy, these are afforded to us as inalienable rights. In fact by evading these systems and going underground, we are in essence giving up our rights instead of enforcing them, which just means more and more rights get eroded until we have none left.

Alexander Hanff

---------- Post added at 07:54 ---------- Previous post was at 07:52 ----------

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Originally Posted by Dephormation View Post
Alexander - on your page you say "until about a week ago, BT’s Webwise web site was run by Phorm".

Its still on 3rd party hosting, and the netblock owner is still "Phorm IPv4 Assignment". The Webwise Help Desk have said "Phorm currently operates the Webwise information site (www.bt.com/webwise) on BT's behalf".

So it is *still* run by Phorm.

PS. www.bt.com/webwise redirects you to -> http://webwise.bt.com/webwise/index.php (Phorm operated)
Add a comment if you like, I was more interested in getting the point about the contact page which was processing significantly personal data, across. It is my understanding that the contact page is no longer controlled by Phorm?

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