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Old 03-06-2008, 19:02   #7918
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by R Jones View Post
Phorm claim (in advertiser oriented promotions) that they know what you were doing 3 days ago (looking at ads for a certain Canon camera model)

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Reply from Don Foster MP (signatory to Early Day Motion in Commons)

I've had a reply from my MP Annette Brook (LD) one of the EDM signatories, with Don Foster's response to my concerns (Don Foster MP is the intiator of the EDM). It does not make for happy reading.

He has met Phorm, and appears to have been given their standard talk, and believed it.
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I've emailed my MP back with a detailed explanation of why Don Foster's response is both inadequate, disappointing and politically weak. Anyone else willing to give him a prod too? I've told him about the demo and said he needs to meet opponents of Phorm and not just meet Phorm and BT.

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Originally Posted by Dephormation View Post
BT News.

www.webwise.bt.com is back ... but

This time its the same IP as webwise.bt.com, and the same as bt.webwise.com, and the same as www.phorm.com, and the same as www.webwise.com.

Its located in the UK.

IP address is now 89.145.112.31, "PHORM IPV4 ASSIGNMENT". http://89.145.112.31 displays Phorm.com.

I've confirmed via netcraft.co.uk.
I've done some cookie checking today, and the two sites
webwise.bt.com
www.webwise.bt.com
both process the bt username cookie with the primary email address (appears in dephormation logs of visits to the contact.php pages)

The third bt.webwise.com site does not do this presumably because as a non bt.com site, it doesn't access the bt.com cookies.
The three sites are identical as regards content.
All use custhelp.com for their contact form handling (having mysteriously dumped the Phorm/121Media involvement in that process by last weekend)
So much for transparency on the part of BT.

Once again - it isn't what BT SAY but what they don't say, and what they do while they aren't saying it, that is revealing.

They have responded to exposure by repatriating the BT Webwise operation and by taking the data handling aspect of the BT Webwise contact pages from Phorm.com and giving it to their main Help agents custhelp.com

So anyone who wants to submit a DPA complaint about the old way those pages worked, who has emails with References: headers containing the string Phorm.com or 121Media.com or subject lines with FW in them, do complain to the ICO. He may ignore you, but all those ignored complaints eventually have to be accounted for to the EC. It's tedious but worth doing IMHO.
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