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Old 03-06-2008, 09:23   #7880
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by icsys View Post
And here they are:
http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/out.html
http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/in.html

and a cookie was set...
OPTED_OUT
YES
webwise.net/
1024
3592440064
30081716
4226224960
29934865
*
Thanks for the tip, I'll investigate this morning.

regards
Pete.

---------- Post added at 08:56 ---------- Previous post was at 08:39 ----------

Can confirm the analysis;

Opt out:-

Domain: .webwise.net
Cookie: OPTED_OUT = YES
Path: /
Expiry: 2 years

Opt In:-

Host:a.webwise.net
Cookie: uid= base64 encoded value
Path: /services/
Expiry: 12 months

If this isn't mirrored on a BT site, I'd suspect it was more to do with a demo to another client... possibly USA?

Either way, Dephormation is setting the right opted out cookie (do not rely on Dephormation as a long term solution... find a new ISP).

Pete.

---------- Post added at 09:01 ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 ----------

Looking at the code on that site, there's a possibility BT users will get sent to "http://bt.webwise.com" after opting out.

REMINDER: This is a Phorm operated third party web site with BT branding

Anyone able to confirm?

Pete.

---------- Post added at 09:11 ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 ----------

For anyone using Dephormation v2.0, note it logs only cookie sending not cookie setting so you may not see the cookies being set during the Webwise opt in/out process.

Cookie sending is the most important bit (which is logged).

But I can see I need to add cookie setting for completeness.

Pete.

---------- Post added at 09:23 ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 ----------

For non-techs bt.webwise.com === www.phorm.com. You'll find if you paste the IP address for bt.webwise.com (http://89.145.112.31/) into your browser you actually get the Phorm website.

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C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC>dig bt.webwise.com

; <<>> DiG 9.5.0 <<>> bt.webwise.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1055
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;bt.webwise.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
bt.webwise.com. 642 IN A 89.145.112.31
bt.webwise.com. 642 IN A 89.145.112.32

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
webwise.com. 642 IN NS ns2.webwise.com.
webwise.com. 642 IN NS ns1.webwise.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.webwise.com. 642 IN A 38.105.138.54
ns1.webwise.com. 642 IN A 38.105.138.53

;; Query time: 31 msec
;; SERVER: 195.74.113.58#53(195.74.113.58)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 03 09:17:50 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 132


C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC>dig www.phorm.com

; <<>> DiG 9.5.0 <<>> www.phorm.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1760
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.phorm.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.phorm.com. 799 IN CNAME phorm.com.
phorm.com. 199 IN A 89.145.112.32
phorm.com. 199 IN A 89.145.112.31

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
phorm.com. 799 IN NS ns2.phorm.com.
phorm.com. 799 IN NS ns1.phorm.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.phorm.com. 172698 IN A 38.105.138.54
ns1.phorm.com. 172698 IN A 38.105.138.53

;; Query time: 31 msec
;; SERVER: 195.74.113.58#53(195.74.113.58)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 03 09:18:00 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 145
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