Cable Forum - View Single Post - Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

mark777 · 27-05-2008, 00:08

Some details of the gadget show item. I'll pick out some choice quotes.

The piece is presented by Jason Bradbury. He starts on the sofa.

"I want to tell you about the murkier side of ISP's"
"You pay, you their customers, pay for access to the internet".

Cuts to street scene. Privacy is something we all value and take for granted. If I walk down the street I don't expect someone to come up and look what colour pants I have on. (Girl runs up and looks at his pants).

If I work on my computer,I don't expect anyone to assume it's their right to know what i'm reading (girl sits behind looking over his shoulder).

What about the internet, are you sure it's private? He thinks it should be
private, it's your business and it should stay that way. (It's clear what he
thinks about it).

If you have an account with the top 3 ISP's your surfing habits will not remain
private for long because they intend to sell your browsing habits to advertisers. (Names the 3 and phorm/webwise).

Cut to Kent guff. Normal stuff. (Looks like he needs to eat more prunes.)

JB then explains that BT due to start soon, others later.

Cut to BT Emma. Trials start soon etc. Interestingly, same stutter when talking about legal advice as on C4 and BBC interviews. (She does not look convincing, more like a naughty school girl caught out on something).

JB then explains a lot depends upon how the options are presented. What happens by default etc.

"We believe this is very, very wrong. In fact we think your ISP has a moral
obligation not to just sell on your surfing habits, but to keep them completely
secure. After all, you are paying them."

"There is even some debate if Phorms services are even legal"

Cut to James Michael, Editor, Privacy Laws and Business. Talks about FIPR RIPA etc.

Asked Phorm about this. "There is no legal issue, we comply with all UK laws and have been in consultation with ICO and HO"

Suzy Perry - "If you want your browsing kept private in the future, it's worth
knowing about the plans of the leading 3 ISP' so we will keep you posted"

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It's not word for word, but a good gist of it. From our point of view I think it was excellent. BT and Phorm would not have liked it. I don't know what the viewing figures are for the gadget show, but whoever watched it will have had a bit of an eye opener.

EDIT : I see icsys beat me to it.

27-05-2008, 00:08	#7249
mark777 Inactive Join Date: Mar 2008 Services: 0.4 Mbps BB + Phone Posts: 447	Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] Some details of the gadget show item. I'll pick out some choice quotes. The piece is presented by Jason Bradbury. He starts on the sofa. "I want to tell you about the murkier side of ISP's" "You pay, you their customers, pay for access to the internet". Cuts to street scene. Privacy is something we all value and take for granted. If I walk down the street I don't expect someone to come up and look what colour pants I have on. (Girl runs up and looks at his pants). If I work on my computer,I don't expect anyone to assume it's their right to know what i'm reading (girl sits behind looking over his shoulder). What about the internet, are you sure it's private? He thinks it should be private, it's your business and it should stay that way. (It's clear what he thinks about it). If you have an account with the top 3 ISP's your surfing habits will not remain private for long because they intend to sell your browsing habits to advertisers. (Names the 3 and phorm/webwise). Cut to Kent guff. Normal stuff. (Looks like he needs to eat more prunes.) JB then explains that BT due to start soon, others later. Cut to BT Emma. Trials start soon etc. Interestingly, same stutter when talking about legal advice as on C4 and BBC interviews. (She does not look convincing, more like a naughty school girl caught out on something). JB then explains a lot depends upon how the options are presented. What happens by default etc. "We believe this is very, very wrong. In fact we think your ISP has a moral obligation not to just sell on your surfing habits, but to keep them completely secure. After all, you are paying them." "There is even some debate if Phorms services are even legal" Cut to James Michael, Editor, Privacy Laws and Business. Talks about FIPR RIPA etc. Asked Phorm about this. "There is no legal issue, we comply with all UK laws and have been in consultation with ICO and HO" Suzy Perry - "If you want your browsing kept private in the future, it's worth knowing about the plans of the leading 3 ISP' so we will keep you posted" ------------------------------------ It's not word for word, but a good gist of it. From our point of view I think it was excellent. BT and Phorm would not have liked it. I don't know what the viewing figures are for the gadget show, but whoever watched it will have had a bit of an eye opener. EDIT : I see icsys beat me to it.