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Originally Posted by vicz
Well as neither a BT customer nor employee I can only take your word for it! But my general point is that all this talk about what fields they will or won't scan, or whether they will look inside cookies, etc., is pretty arcane. There is no way for a webwise customer to validate anything they are told, and no licensing mechanism to verify that they only do what they say they will or that there will not be accidental or deliberate function creep. And there is no specification for an 'acceptable' amount of interception in RIPA, save for the clauses on bilateral consent, and that essential to provide the service. Everyone enjoys phorm-bashing - and why not, they deserve it! - but it is the ISPs who are planning to do the dirty on their customers and it suits them to retain a certain amount of ignorance or even to mis-represent how phorm works so that they can point the finger of blame if the going gets tough.
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I agree - I'm much more focussed on my ISP than on Phorm. Kent's out to make a fast buck, and he's a spyware/rootkit merchant and performing exactly as we might expect someone to perform who has been involved in deceiving/fooling the public in the past - in one sense - good luck to him (butI hope he fails).
But my ISP pretend to be good guys, a blue chip mainstream national comms provider, and yet they spin even faster than Phorm do, and much less cleverly. My ISP ran secret and illegal trials, my ISP lied about what they were doing, my ISP holds its customers in considerable contempt, as well as holding quite a few of its staff in considerable contempt too. My ISP have been stupid enough to fall for Kent's spin, or evil enough to be partners with him in this unprecedented Layer 7 interception technology, and even NOW they haven't clearly explained even that it will be only be available by active informed consent to opt-IN.
I just hope that my country's legal system will do the decent thing and prosecute some of the BT executives for breaking the law - instead of just chasing teenage file-sharers to protect Sony and EMI - why won't they prosecute a big company like BT to protect ME!!?
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Originally Posted by Florence
The best path for anyone who feels they cannot trust their ISP once phormised (if ever) is to do as I have already done move to an ISP that is not signing up to phorm. Remember Kent will say he is talking to loads of ISPs as this suits his needs the more doubt he places in our minds our new ISP might be talking the less chance there is of us moving. To be sure you are safe you need an ISP like Zen or Aquiss where the extra phorm would bring is not what they are looking at since both look to customer services and keep their call centers in the UK. Unlike the three that are signed upto phorm where your help is offshore.
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Point taken Florence, but I'm much more trouble to my ISP if I stay with them at the moment, and anyway - it is THEY who should have to change, not me! After all - it's illegality, I'm complaining about, not targeted advertising.